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[PackingMoney]

Valkyrie and Peacekeeper are - spam classes, no skills required. I am prestige 22 Warden, and yes I understand every class can spam. But, after many 1vs1 duels against players. I find Valkyrie and Peacekeeper guilty of spam abuse no skills required. Here's why Valkyrie and Peacekeeper are 2 mosr disgusting hated. Reason number 1. Peacekeeper - Bleed spam, dodges all attacks easily and other classes struggle when trying to hit or dodge and still get hit by the Peacekeeper. Reason number 2. Valkyrie - most annoying, especially with her new buffs stamina regen boosted, damage boosted, speed boosted and etc, but that's not whay's most annoying. Once a Valkyrie gets you cornered back to a wall, that ***** will destroy you effortlessly. Here's her overpowered spam undodgeable unescapeable unblockable unattackable situation. 100% stamina drain shield tackle with unblockable undodgeable uncounterable guard breaker leg sweep combo spam. And trust me, if I ever fight a Valkyrie abusing this combo, i'll record it and post to YouTube. To fix this issue, all ubisoft needs to add is,''Spamming same combo more than 3 times a row slows your stamina regen, you can't use same combo for 30 seconds.

Do you play at high level, because PK spam is almost impossible to be effective at high level.

[Cyb3rR4ptor]

Let's not act like Valk and Nobushi aren't High tier characters here. If not TOP then the very next tier down. Though Nobushi is widely considered top by just about every latest Tier list I consult. Valk varies between Top and High tier after her recent buff.

Nobushi and Valk are far from being "Top"
why? They don't have enough tools or mixups as the non turtles "PK and warden" They also have more vulnerabilities. Nobuhi's attacks can easily be dodge since they all basically go forward. her kicks are slow and have long recovery, her guard stance change is the worse in the game you can literally attack her faster than she can block if she doesn't land the parry she's done. Valks sweeps if missed are free damage, she has a better game now but not one that i could consider "TOP".

The only reason those two are actually not on the TOP are due to the turtles, but that could be said about the many other characters. I'd like to see a tournament where Conq, and Warden are not allowed, just to see how the results become.

[bananaflow2017]

Please do not tell me that you said her light attacks are the fastest in the game. You have no clue. PK has the fastest lights followed by Orochi, NOBU/zerker.

Even after a sweep I get one heavy and MAYBE 1 light. Most people can block it. And without a gb or a shoulder charge no way I land more than 1 light attack.

Clearly you have never played a valk against good players.

Ok it's hard for me to ask but.
Yeah i main the valk and there are 3 heroes i rly can't deal with. And im pretty new to the game so pls no offense .
I got problems with conq and warlord with theire turtles... ok it looks line hwy counter my mechanics i can live with dat.
But i rly don't understand wardens complaining about valks. I mean they just beat my *** up so hard. I really don't know what to do against it.
My second hit is nearly allways blocked so i have no sweep. Gb him is nearly impossible and then he just getting to mevwith shoulder bash double light side infinite combo. Afzer 2 times i managed to dodge it but then he turns it into a gb during my recovery time.
It's just.... i really cant get through him because the only way is a gb but when im getting near him he just shoulder bashes me and when i dodge he just turns into a gb again. Abd yeah the tume between his double light and his shoulder bash is anyhow not enough to make a light attack to interrupt him...
Wardens are really the hardest enemies with the 2 turtles for me.
Mayve you have got some tipps for me.

[Specialkha]

Nobushi top Tier? Mmh k, /thread.

[secrecy274]

Nobushi and Valk are far from being "Top"
why? They don't have enough tools or mixups as the non turtles "PK and warden" They also have more vulnerabilities. Nobuhi's attacks can easily be dodge since they all basically go forward. her kicks are slow and have long recovery, her guard stance change is the worse in the game you can literally attack her faster than she can block if she doesn't land the parry she's done. Valks sweeps if missed are free damage, she has a better game now but not one that i could consider "TOP".

The only reason those two are actually not on the TOP are due to the turtles, but that could be said about the many other characters. I'd like to see a tournament where Conq, and Warden are not allowed, just to see how the results become.

Is this actually confirmed or from your gut feeling?

[Gray360UK]

So most of the classes in the game then basically, when you add the ones you don't like to the ones everyone else doesn't like.
See, they can't all be OP at the same time ... it doesn't work like that.
Different strengths and weakness that can be countered with your own strengths, thats a different thing and part of the game.
The longer the list of classes that someone complains about, the more I think they invalidate their own complaint.
You just need to learn to fight these classes.