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[Synsif]

Let's not act like Valk and Nobushi aren't High tier characters here. If not TOP then the very next tier down. Though Nobushi is widely considered top by just about every latest Tier list I consult. Valk varies between Top and High tier after her recent buff.

Nobushi and Valk are very much barely high tier. They are right above Orochi and Berserker on the scale in most competitive players eyes. The tier lists you have been seeing are just not valid. The creator obviously hasn't been to top tier play. Basically everyone in the competitive scene agrees that Warlord, Conq, PK, and Warden are top tier. Valk and Nobushi are not. Orochi is mid tier, Nobushi and Valk are just above that.

[zide-]

Nobushi and Valk are very much barely high tier. They are right above Orochi and Berserker on the scale in most competitive players eyes. The tier lists you have been seeing are just not valid. The creator obviously hasn't been to top tier play. Basically everyone in the competitive scene agrees that Warlord, Conq, PK, and Warden are top tier. Valk and Nobushi are not. Orochi is mid tier, Nobushi and Valk are just above that.

After the latest patch, Valkyrie is definetely up there at the high tier list. She is basically upgraded version of Warden with her vortex and extremely fast light attack combo but with the addition of better blocking abilities and more options to knock opponents to the ground.

[PackingMoney]

After the latest patch, Valkyrie is definetely up there at the high tier list. She is basically upgraded version of Warden with her vortex and extremely fast light attack combo but with the addition of better blocking abilities and more options to knock opponents to the ground.

Valk is not a better warden. She can easily be punished on her shield charge. Also Warden has crushing counter-strike, something Valk doesn't have.

[Traktorash]

That is possible, though sometimes it isn't possible and not too sure if it is free. It would be BS if it was free after the bash.

No it's not free, i just mean that do the Bash into Sweep enough times and enemies will start frantacly dodging... wich DOES make the GB free.

Valk is not a better warden. She can easily be punished on her shield charge. Also Warden has crushing counter-strike, something Valk doesn't have.

Eh... she technicaly has shoulder pin but that deflect for some reason is faaaairly unreliable.

[zide-]

Valk is not a better warden. She can easily be punished on her shield charge. Also Warden has crushing counter-strike, something Valk doesn't have.

I disagree. Valkyrie may not have a counter combo but she can bash you with a shield or/and sweep your legs which leads you laying on the ground after she can land greater damage than Warden's counter. Her lights are up there with PK's when it comes to speed. I agree warden is strong, but I have never met a Warden I cannot handle due to the fact playing as one is based on hyper defensive approach and as long as you don't go offensive you can eventually beat Warden by one hit baits. Valkyrie on the otherhand is defensive class but can get on your face quick.

[PackingMoney]

I disagree. Valkyrie may not have a counter combo but she can bash you with a shield or/and sweep your legs which leads you laying on the ground after she can land greater damage than Warden's counter. Her lights are up there with PK's when it comes to speed. I agree warden is strong, but I have never met a Warden I cannot handle due to the fact playing as one is based on hyper defensive approach and as long as you don't go offensive you can eventually beat Warden by one hit baits. Valkyrie on the otherhand is defensive class but can get on your face quick.

Valkyrie has one of the lowest damage outputs in the game and all of her attacks are predictable. Yes the sweep can cause a lot of damage, but if you know the combos and attacks before the sweep is available to use, then it is very easy to counter it before it happens.

[PackingMoney]

No it's not free, i just mean that do the Bash into Sweep enough times and enemies will start frantacly dodging... wich DOES make the GB free.



Eh... she technicaly has shoulder pin but that deflect for some reason is faaaairly unreliable.

The first comment is true but most plays will not do the same things over again as it becomes pattern play, allowing the opponent to easily adapt.

[Traktorash]

The first comment is true but most plays will not do the same things over again as it becomes pattern play, allowing the opponent to easily adapt.

Don't get me wrong by "enough times" i mean like 1 full combo (HeavyBashCanel -> Light -> Sweep -> Heavy -> Bashe -> Sweep). The second time you just do GB after the bash

[PackingMoney]

Don't get me wrong by "enough times" i mean like 1 full combo (HeavyBashCanel -> Light -> Sweep -> Heavy -> Bashe -> Sweep). The second time you just do GB after the bash

I main PK so honestly, I don't get hit by the sweep to often, and I will be able to react to the GB.

[Winsome111]

I disagree. Valkyrie may not have a counter combo but she can bash you with a shield or/and sweep your legs which leads you laying on the ground after she can land greater damage than Warden's counter. Her lights are up there with PK's when it comes to speed. I agree warden is strong, but I have never met a Warden I cannot handle due to the fact playing as one is based on hyper defensive approach and as long as you don't go offensive you can eventually beat Warden by one hit baits. Valkyrie on the otherhand is defensive class but can get on your face quick.

Please do not tell me that you said her light attacks are the fastest in the game. You have no clue. PK has the fastest lights followed by Orochi, NOBU/zerker.

Even after a sweep I get one heavy and MAYBE 1 light. Most people can block it. And without a gb or a shoulder charge no way I land more than 1 light attack.

Clearly you have never played a valk against good players.