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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by DexLuther Go to original post
    Actually, it kinda IS your fault. As a game tester (not affiliated with Ubisoft) I can tell you why 90% of games (and pretty much all AAA) games are developed for consoles (primarily PS4) these days.

    1) Easier to develop when you know EXACTLY what hardware you're coding for. There's less chances of things messing up your code when you know what environment it'll be running in and being able to code for that environment. Even when Sony or Microsoft decide to release a new version of their console or a new firmware, which we usually get in advance. Even if we didn't get them in advance, it's real easy to go put in an order for some, and then test your code on it. Heck when ****'s hit the fan and we needed extra retail consoles to test something on, I've seen the manager go down to Walmart and get what was needed.

    It's impossible to get a game running without any issues at all for a platform that has billions of hardware combinations. Factor in all the software people can have running in the background on their PC, and you've got an unlimited number of possible combinations all of which can affect your code in different ways. Games are tested on clean machines in a limited number of hardware configurations. That's it. You're responsible for the rest.

    Maybe if the PC "master race" was more standardized it wouldn't be running into the issues it's been having with gaming as of late.

    2) Hackers/Cheaters/Pirates make making any game for PC an ongoing nightmare. When pirates make your company lose a considerable amount of profit, making games for the platform that makes piracy the easiest becomes less enticing. That platform becomes an afterthought, and rightfully so. Don't tell me you wouldn't do the same.

    Wildlands doesn't have it yet, but there's going to be (supposedly, anything can happen) an online PVP aspect to the game. Just look at any online game, WoW, Battlefield, etc. They all have continuous problems with hacks and cheaters, and it'll continue to happen with a platform as open as a PC is. It's not impossible, but it's a lot more effort to get pirated software onto a console. Cheaters are also usually limited to exploiting bugs in online games, or in a few cases messing with internet connections or specialized controllers.

    Only once have I heard about "hacks" being used on console, and that was years ago on Halo using an exploit found on a DLC disc, which IIRC was patched.

    As a company would your priority go to the platform that has all these problems or would your focus be on the standardized relatively closed platforms that consoles are?
    I can agree with you on most of these issues when it comes to PC gaming because even though I am not a PC guru, I have been around PCs for such a long time that I can see how some people with a 400 Dell PC can get angry that they can not play this game at 4K resolution.

    Now, being said that, you also have to agree that UBI puts the least effort optimizing the PC game (no need to get into it as you know all the issues very well) but yet, fully expect people to pay full price for the game and that is my problem because I am not willing to pay full price for a half finished and/or broken game, hardware issues not withstanding.

    You may not want to agree with me but when you have half the keys on your keyboard unable to bind them because they forgot that most PC players don't use controllers but full keyboards and mouse, you can't blame that on the user. It may seem trivial to you but it is very detrimental to us when we can not utilize the full keyboard and mouse to enjoy our game. Then there is the issue that even if those keys are binded they don't work at all... ie: F1 to F4 keys for commanding your squad do absolutely nothing. FPS drops when using the Binocs because of draw distance, etc, etc.

    Since I am not much for eye candy I don't have the issues that a lot of people are suffering or complaining about but I am sure that most of these folks know what they are doing and if they can do it on other games, they should be able to do so with this one as well.

    In reference to Pirates, it is established that they don't really hinder sales but DRM does hinder most paying customers, but no need to rehash the why or why not. I don't play PvE or PvP so I can't speak intelligently about hackers but I do read that they are a nuisance. I am also not blind that there is plenty of hacking on the console but again, I could not care less about it because it is not my wheel house.

    Now, all of these issues pale in comparison with the issues the game itself has presented us with and people burying their heads in the sand because they are willing to circumvent those issues just to play a game does not help anybody for this or the next game.
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  2. #22
    I haven't had any of the issues you've specified. Enemy ai do not spot you team mates unless you yourself got spotted. All the complaints about the ai in this game, people claiming their ai team mates are alerting enemies, any mistakes they make are because of you, they were really well designed, if you get caught it's 100% your fault, it tells you when your teammates have a shot on someone, it's up to you to make sure that no one see's the enemy fall. Your ai squadmates do not miss when you sync shot, and they only shoot when you are engaged (the enemies know where you are and are shooting you) your teammates wont shoot for any other reason besides sync shots, and when you're in a vehicle you can tell them to stop shooting if you're trying to escape. Sounds to me you're bad at the game and want to blame someone else.
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  3. #23
    I've had the helo half in the ground on a pad but that's really it. Nothing like you have said, EMP does disable trucks but it's easier with HTI.
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    People said they didnt want PVP and just PVE.

    From the videos and posts people have made, you can see why

    Learn to play against a working mind instead of boring AI.

    Bring on the PVP update!!
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    Originally Posted by DexLuther Go to original post


    2) Hackers/Cheaters/Pirates make making any game for PC an ongoing nightmare. When pirates make your company lose a considerable amount of profit, making games for the platform that makes piracy the easiest becomes less enticing. That platform becomes an afterthought, and rightfully so. Don't tell me you wouldn't do the same.

    Piracy is a wide spread issue on consoles too not just limited to PC, FYI
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    Originally Posted by xS4R1Nx Go to original post
    Couldn't agree more.

    There's so much wrong with this game it's ridiculous. Full disclosure, I only bought this game to play with my clan, that's it, otherwise I'd have let this steaming pile of crap rot.

    Regarding the AI, here's two vids I made the other day showing off how blind and deaf they can be.

    Unidad staring at friendlies and my character calling an R5 RGP "submachine guns (yes, plural)"


    An entire Unidad defensive group wiped our with an unsuppressed AK12 at 50m without so much as a flinch from them (well, except for the guy I missed like a scrub). Like....how the hell can they not hear an assault rifle or see their teammates getting ruined...


    Same Crap on PS4
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    well, the EMP part worked before they "patched" the game.

    after that patch the explosions are worse than before. now they are completely random, the delay can be on your side and trigger like it should...or it triggers minutes later.
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  8. #28
    blah blah blah......... pc vs console lets get back to what the thread was about...... i have to agree about the ai team mates they can shoot from any direction and hit anything.

    if i play by myself with ai i can beat almost any mission but the timed and convoys..... with a friend its almost all are impossible u can get spotted by anything at anytime.

    u can have c4 but u can blow up a brick wall.... instead while being shot at by everything u have to run all the way around a location just to get shot and wait to be revived by a team who are doing what every they want.

    ah i love this game but it has so many issues
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  9. #29
    Originally Posted by xS4R1Nx Go to original post
    Couldn't agree more.

    There's so much wrong with this game it's ridiculous. Full disclosure, I only bought this game to play with my clan, that's it, otherwise I'd have let this steaming pile of crap rot.

    So Ubi were actually very clever in making a 4 player co-op game, It has people who really dislike it after the beta still buying it due to buddies wanting to play it.
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