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  1. #1

    My personal wish for LB tweak.

    1. Fast guard change
    2. Better damage off of light riposte
    3. Superior block during chains.
    4. For all heroes: Sideways attacks should not be dodged through unless deflected.


    Bonus: increase recovery time after using long arm, since the reward is not worth the risk.

    I'm not sure about his current stamina usage to damage ratio, It feels really off but I think if these other change were made, maybe they could be left alone.

    Feel free to criticize, i just wanted to throw some ideas out there.
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    Faster lights for me. Anything else would be icing on the cake.
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    Anything at all really. But I'm pushing hardest for some form of uninterruptible stance or hyper armor. Really anything that would actually allow him to trade and relieve pressure from PK light spam or Valk combo. If they choose to not increase his speed I'd really have to insist this.
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    Originally Posted by XImohtephXX Go to original post
    Anything at all really. But I'm pushing hardest for some form of uninterruptible stance or hyper armor. Really anything that would actually allow him to trade and relieve pressure from PK light spam or Valk combo. If they choose to not increase his speed I'd really have to insist this.
    LB has hyper armor on Shove, but there's no guaranteed follow up. This is why the top tier characters will *always* be better in high level play. I've suggested getting a guaranteed light off of dodge>Shove, since it would only be OP if it functioned with block/heavy attack>Shove.
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    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    LB has hyper armor on Shove, but there's no guaranteed follow up. This is why the top tier characters will *always* be better in high level play. I've suggested getting a guaranteed light off of dodge>Shove, since it would only be OP if it functioned with block/heavy attack>Shove.
    That hyper armor only allows you a reset to neutral if they are being aggressive with light attacks hardly worth the damage you take. When fighting another Lawbringer I merely use this as my window for a quick overhead light not worth dodging it because as you said nothing is guaranteed off of it. The hyper armor I want would be in the startup of heavies
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    I hope we get news about changes soon. I need something good o look forward to.
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    Originally Posted by eliteslayer66 Go to original post
    I hope we get news about changes soon. I need something good o look forward to.
    At least something to brighten our abysmal existence as Lawbringer mains.
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    Well shove stops stamina regen for 2-2.5 seconds. Experienced players expect a Gb after the shove. So when that happens I do 4 things.

    Shove>light
    Shove>shove
    Shove>heavy(feint is necessary)
    Shove>dash(nothing happens I stop and wait)

    I spam continuous shoves alot nowadays. It's actually nice since the only way to punish it is with dodge attacks (actual attacks mind you not disable moves like headbutt or shove itself since you can dodge those after the shove is over) but thanks to the armor on shove I can I can block PK followups after her dash attacks (can't seem to parry them though.) Also since shove has Gb immunity throughout it's WHOLE duration that means I'm completely safe from GB's. IIt also recovers fast enough that I can tech GB's if someone wants to dodge shove which is nice.

    I like to spam shove until the opponent is exhausted. You'd be surprised how many players (good and bad) will let you shove them into exhaustion Once they start to catch on then you can throw in GB's, lights or even heavies. You can also delay the shove after a dash.

    Fighting near hazards improves your odds greatly because everyone knows....it just takes one GB to end your life. Plus shove can well...shove people into hazards as well. Which I have abused. It's great fighting on bridges since you don't even need to GB..
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    Take for example the forest bridge in duels.

    All a LB has to do is spam shove. The only counter to it is not be on the bridge. You side tech and attempt a GB? Congrats you've just been teched and are now falling off the bridge. You go attack? He'll just keep shoving you till exhaustion.

    Shove also either seems to have infinity armor or at least 2 htis. Since I've absorbed both hits from a PK dash attack before.
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