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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by corazondedelfin Go to original post
    This is not a table about what is a challenge for me and what characters are easy to kill, this is a table about the general reality that many of us agree at.

    AND IT WAS NOT ME MAN, NOT ME ALONE, MANY PEOPLE IN THAT THREAD. ILL BUMP IT FOR YOU.
    Reality is not a thing people agree on.

    It is.
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    As a valkaryie main I have to disagree we are S class. Without gear and our tier 1 feat our light attacks do laughable damage. Our heavy attacks are stupid slow and very much telegraphed to the point if you don't block them that's a git gud issue.

    I would say we are an A class at best.
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    Originally Posted by DrExtrem Go to original post
    Warden can be powerful but relies too much on vortex. Zone attack is too stamina consuming for its damage and if blocked, the warden is in trouble. Upper light can nt br chained beyond teo strikes. He is a-tier, if played good.

    Warlord is not only borderline OP. Even without headbut vortex, he has more than enough tools, raw damage and life to obliterate you. S-tier.

    PK is a powerhouse, if you can not block her light attacks. Once she starts spamming, you are done for. If you can put her on the defense, you have a small chance. S-tier

    Nobushi. Versatile, dot damage everywhere, very fast and hard hitting attacks and highest range ingame. Add high mobility and the s-tier is booked.

    Conqueror is a mixed bag. Borderline op with his vortex and if you master his counterattack, you are god. A-tier. Still, he relies too much on the vortex.

    Orochi is almost s-tier, if the light spam is executed well. See PK

    Shugoki ... fatty is broken. Too much damage, too much life and an unterruptable stance - he can outlive and outdamage most heroes. You rely on the shugoki to screw up to kill him. S-tier (lower end though)

    Berserker is b-tier, if your block's are good. His heavies are very strong but easy to counter. Don't make him spam lights. Suffers from unreliable deflects.

    Raider ... poor guy. He is c-tier in duelling situations. His heavies are brutal but slow. Even his lights are slow. If played opportunistic, he is ok but hardly a carry.

    Lawbringer. Mixed bag. A-tier in group fights but d-tier in duels. He has some nice tools but his vortex is relatively slow. Relies too much on heavies.

    Valkyrie. Strange character. In an 1on1 situation, she can slowly wear you down. Like a cat, who is playing with her pray. But she does not have high damage combos and ger ttk is low. Supporter in group situations. She is a/b-tier. (a for duels)

    Kensai is ... strange. His light attacks are the highest damaging ones and they are fast. Even his heavy attacks are not slow. His unblockables however, are. If played with focus on light attacks and sidesteps, he is a-tier - lower end though.


    Just my opinions.

    I agree with most of your statement, but since the changes I think Valk (if they master dodge) is a solid A/Borderline S for duels. If she gets on a roll, can literally vortex keep you on your back to frustrate most until they make a huge mistake and then you are eating dirt.
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    Originally Posted by Thanapetus Go to original post
    I agree with most of your statement, but since the changes I think Valk (if they master dodge) is a solid A/Borderline S for duels. If she gets on a roll, can literally vortex keep you on your back to frustrate most until they make a huge mistake and then you are eating dirt.
    Like I wrote. A for duels.

    In duels, time is a neglectable factor.
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    As far as I can tell I pretty much agree with all of you.
    Since the patch her reaction times and range just seem great.

    And if i was meant to play Valk that is really a shame, although i appreciate that thought haha.
    You seen Ive always been weirded out by the weirdo nerds that play as girl characters in WoW
    or any other game for that matter, then perv out on their digital character. So playing as a girl never sat well with me.
    Such a shame Ubisoft had to pull the gender lock bs. Would have loved to play PK or Nobushi....oh wel D**ks

    As for the Tier List you guys got going. I mostly agree, mine would be this.

    S - Warlord, Valk, PK, Conqueror, Nobushi
    A - Warden, Berserker ( S - matched against an Orochi )
    B - Kensei, Raider, orochi, Shogoki, LB Since the recent patch noticed more raiders wrecking shop.
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    Originally Posted by corazondedelfin Go to original post
    This is not a table about what is a challenge for me and what characters are easy to kill, this is a table about the general reality that many of us agree at.

    AND IT WAS NOT ME MAN, NOT ME ALONE, MANY PEOPLE IN THAT THREAD. ILL BUMP IT FOR YOU.
    As I said in that other thread, Orochi is meant to be a glass cannon. If you buff her defense she will be op. Stop complaining, sharpen your reflexes and use riptide strike more often as it is a reliable counter move.
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  7. #27
    -Snort- The big four.

    The big four is mostly a joke. Shugoki gets countered by PK and Orochi and Warden... Big 4 my ***.


    plus no PK? What a joke


    Conq loses to anyone with a side dash attack... Again big 4? says who xD
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