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[NetcodeFavorite]

uhh.. gear stats, as in influence. Not talking about cosmetics.

You said gear. But i wouldn't mind removing stats, tho if you can argue as to why we should. Just saying "we should remove it just cause" is not a good enough reason. Give me a good argument why and everyone else here and we might agree.

[Turric4n666]

You said gear. But i wouldn't mind removing stats, tho if you can argue as to why we should. Just saying "we should remove it just cause" is not a good enough reason. Give me a good argument why and everyone else here and we might agree.

this topic was about gear stats, wasn´t it?

Yeah, because it isn´t a fair competition when someone can get an advantage by spending more time in a game.
http://www.sirlin.net/posts/sirlin-o...ven-playfields

i am really tired of repeating myself, so please listen to the podcast and then we can discuss.

[NetcodeFavorite]

this topic was about gear stats, wasn´t it?

Yeah, because it isn´t a fair competition when someone can get an advantage by spending more time in a game.
http://www.sirlin.net/posts/sirlin-o...ven-playfields

i am really tired of repeating myself, so please listen to the podcast and then we can discuss.

Games with gear has ALWAYS had that kind of system. More time = More rewards and you then use these rewards to give yourself an advantage. However, there should be a matchmaking system so those who hasn't spent as much time in the game, shouldn't be facing these who has spent alot of time in the game. So you don't roflstomp the new players.

Even though gear matters in this game, you can still beat 108gearscore when you have 0 gearscore with skills alone. I've done it countless times and tbh i rarely get defeated in a 1v1 even tho they have 108 gearscore and i got like 12 or 10 etc. It is usually what hero im facing, because valk, pk and orochi are my nemesis i have issues defeating.

But saying you shouldn't get an advantage because you spent more time is stupid. Because thats like saying you shouldn't be better at a char because you spent more time ,because you have a unfair advantage because you know more about the char than them. Therefor, after everygame, your combos will randomize so you never learn the combos.

In the last Ubisoft stream of For honor, they said they will implement a matchmaking system, so you do not as often, face high geared ppls.

[Aarpian]

About the gear issue. When i first faced a level 4 Rep player i got my *** handed to me. I complained it was all about gear, and that's why he won. Well, i was wrong. For everyone still complaining about gear, it has nothing to do with it, it's all about skill. Played last night, with the mindset gear is not the issue, just play. Faced off against a level Rep 4, and 5, 1V1, and im a level Rep 1, beat them both. The level 5, just got him, the level 4 i took apart like yesterdays lunch. Which also got me wondering, what is the point of the gear if it doesn't make your toon better? Apart from having something to aim for i guess in regards to longevity, but that's about all.

Hey guys, about the danger issue - I was wrong. I just played Russian Roulette twice last night with 5 rounds in the cylinder, and I won both times! Clearly the game isn't dangerous because I was able to play it and win

This is what you sound like.

[Turric4n666]

Games with gear has ALWAYS had that kind of system. More time = More rewards and you then use these rewards to give yourself an advantage. However, there should be a matchmaking system so those who hasn't spent as much time in the game, shouldn't be facing these who has spent alot of time in the game. So you don't roflstomp the new players.

Even though gear matters in this game, you can still beat 108gearscore when you have 0 gearscore with skills alone. I've done it countless times and tbh i rarely get defeated in a 1v1 even tho they have 108 gearscore and i got like 12 or 10 etc. It is usually what hero im facing, because valk, pk and orochi are my nemesis i have issues defeating.

But saying you shouldn't get an advantage because you spent more time is stupid. Because thats like saying you shouldn't be better at a char because you spent more time ,because you have a unfair advantage because you know more about the char than them. Therefor, after everygame, your combos will randomize so you never learn the combos.

In the last Ubisoft stream of For honor, they said they will implement a matchmaking system, so you do not as often, face high geared ppls.

Saying that you deserve a physical advantage for playing more is stupid.

[DrExtrem]

Gear is a bit of a mixed bag in this game.

Certain stats have little influence, that can be compensated by gear, the opponent has. If I have a bonus on damage and the opponent one on defense, they pretty much even each other out.

It gets problematic, if gear allows you to lever certain things out, when combined with other effects. Like revenge gear does. Stack base attack, revenge gain and revenge attack, and you can kill your opponents very, very fast. Its the multiplicative nature of certain stats, that makes certain gear speccs too powerful.

Stats should not get erased from gear but the booster stats certainly need an overhaul and some interesting options like special effects on certain moves, that may also have a downside. Overall, the stats,should become more "traditional", with a steady increase in most (if not all stats).

[NetcodeFavorite]

Saying that you deserve a physical advantage for playing more is stupid.

In a game with gear, thats how it works and have always worked in every single game ever with gear. So whining about it now is stupid.

[Turric4n666]

In a game with gear, thats how it works and have always worked in every single game ever with gear. So whining about it now is stupid.

I am not whining. I am Saying why it's bad and i am arguing to get it out, or at least a game mode without it. I also don't want any pvp game with these mechanics and keep bringing this up every chance i get.

If you don't like that, then don't engage in a conversation and don't join a forum which purpose it is to discuss aspects of a product,good or bad and gather feedback to Improve said product.

[NetcodeFavorite]

I am not whining. I am Saying why it's bad and i am arguing to get it out, or at least a game mode without it. I also don't want any pvp game with these mechanics and keep bringing this up every chance i get.

If you don't like that, then don't engage in a conversation and don't join a forum which purpose it is to discuss aspects of a product,good or bad and gather feedback to Improve said product.

You are saying why you think it is bad. Its your opinion, not a fact. And so you think, only because i disagree with you, iam not allowed to talk here? Also you don't even want to argue why, you just said in a previous post you don't like to repeat yourself. Now you also say you try and keep bringing it up every chance you get. You contradict yourself twice in 3 posts. You should be the one who shouldn't engage in a conversation, because so far you have only said its bad, not why. Or unless "unfair advantage" is the only argument you got. Which i disagree with. You spend more time in the game, why wouldn't you get more rewards? Do you mean, that someone who spends 1 hr in the game should get same thing, someone who spends 10+ hrs gets? Or do you mean that there should be no reward at all? Cuz then the reason to play disapperes alltogether.

Also that you want a different game mode without gear, there exists 2 of them. Called Brawl and Duel, gear has 0 impact there.

[Butonfly]

Trapzerker Feat reduction, gear vs no gear CD's. You get a massive reduction in feat CD's fully geared for it. This has a dramatic impact on a match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcY5C3R5ZkI