Why is the Nobushi considered trash at higher skill levels? (and how to overcome) | Forums

[FH_ellocius]

I just wanted to regroup things about nobushi

for honor values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0

frame stances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTWO7W1VrI

hidden stance bugg
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...bushis_hidden/


for honor Tournament (2 nobushis)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive..._champion_and/

[Oakleaf__Ranger]

Her guard change is slow as **** that getting light spammed to death is extremely viable option against her. She really does have bad openers against people who know how to dodge/block/parry. Her kick is pretty useless against anyone who knows that it can be dodged or canceled with a light (depending on the hero) due to its slow start up. Hidden stance is useless on controller because of how EXTREMELY difficult it is to get to work that I don't even bother with it. Her attack chains are easy to punish by anyone with a dodge attack that doing anymore than single light is asking to get comboed. Her heavy feints are so slow that a light attacks by most of the meta heroes can land before the feint is even finished. Her range is easy to get past because of effective dashing is and more of a liability because of how parry/block mechanics works. Basically range means nothing if it comes with more travel time on attacks in this game currently. She is the one of best noob stompers in this game but against anyone who is actually knows how to play she significantly weaker. If your good enough to play against decent wardens/pks/conqouers/warlords then I recommend dropping her and learn one of those and become a god because that's how ****ty she is right now in higher play. Nobushi rep 4 here that is learning Warlord. This **** is broken by comparison and actually viable at higher play. I like winning so having to taste my *** every time I face a good warden/warlord/conquer/PK (cancer)/ valk is very counter productive for me.

[Zakmuffin]

Some frame data speed for attacks. Nobushi side lights are the only thing quick about her. Though they are very predictable due to slow stance changes and easy to parry at max range.

http://i.imgur.com/0wOPGfK.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive...gth_light_and/

As a bad nobushi I'm able to destroy 108GS rep 4+ heroes as a 0GS warden. LUL balance.

[Christo Ino]

Maybe if they make the cancel kick to connect into a cobra strike, its would be great.

[dayLockey]

No hero outside of Lawbringer is countered as often or as hard as poor little Nobushi. I have P6 Nobu and I've honestly hung up the funny hat + spear because I'm simply tired of playing immaculately only to lose 3-0 to some sub-average, side dodge spamming level 11 PK who can't even follow up heavies with light poison attacks.

There is no satisfaction on trying to outplay 1-trick heroes like Shugoki, WL, Conq, Warden/PK/Oro and their zone/top light gimmick and the whole defense meta. You do so much to get 1 nice mixup combo only to be spammed down by vortex/unblockables and zone attacks by complete morons. It just demoralizes you after awhile.

I've since been playing WL/PK/Warden and the game is honestly so easy it's kind of humorous.

[Zakmuffin]

No hero outside of Lawbringer is countered as often or as hard as poor little Nobushi. I have P6 Nobu and I've honestly hung up the funny hat + spear because I'm simply tired of playing immaculately only to lose 3-0 to some sub-average, side dodge spamming level 11 PK who can't even follow up heavies with light poison attacks.

There is no satisfaction on trying to outplay 1-trick heroes like Shugoki, WL, Conq, Warden/PK/Oro and their zone/top light gimmick and the whole defense meta. You do so much to get 1 nice mixup combo only to be spammed down by vortex/unblockables and zone attacks by complete morons. It just demoralizes you after awhile.

I've since been playing WL/PK/Warden and the game is honestly so easy it's kind of humorous.

100% agree. Warden isn't even a little fun, but I think I may have to pick him up.

[Master_DIEFOOL2]

As far as I know, it's border line impossible to dodge, parry or even block fast attackers such as any Assassin or Valk. I just practiced for an hour playing against a level 3 Valk and found that if they land a light attack it is pretty much impossible to block the next one. Plus, they can immediately follow that up with a trip which is not dodgeable because Nobushi's recovery is too slow. Going up against an experienced Valk, they can keep going with an endless chain of shield bashes, light attacks, and trips. If you're backed up against a wall, there is little to nothing you can do.

If I am wrong, please correct me.

[THEPH0NECOMPANY]

Every high level player can block/ parry everything on reaction and she has to rely on mindgames to open people up, and thus she is considered trash tier, which is also 2/3 of the characters