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  1. #1

    For all the "Peacekeeper is too fast mimimii" people, HERE are the real facts

    Attack Startup Frame Data Based On 60FPS For Some Heroes:

    L = Light
    H = Heavy
    T = Top
    S(L) = Left
    S(R) = Right
    ZA = Zone Attack[/B]



    Warden

    T L = 23 Frames
    S(R) L = 37 Frames
    S(L) L = 37 Frames
    T H = 55 Frames
    S(R) H = 48 Frames
    S(L) H = 48 Frames
    ZA = 30

    ---

    Berserker

    T L = 36 Frames
    S(R) L = 31 Frames
    S (L) L = 31 Frames
    T H = 54 Frames
    S(R) H = 49 Frames
    S(L) H = 49 Frames
    ZA = 31 Frames

    ---

    Orochi

    T L = 29 Frames
    S(R) L = 34 Frames
    S(L) L = 34 Frames
    T H = 40 Frames
    S(R) H = 46 Frames
    S(L) H = 46 Frames
    ZA = 28 Frames

    ---

    Law-Bringer

    T L = 29 Frames
    S(R) = 35 Frames
    S(L) = 35 Frames
    T H = 57 Frames
    S(R) H = 50 Frames
    S(L) H = 50 Frames
    ZA = 54 Frames

    ---

    Valkyrie

    T L = 28 Frames
    S(R) L = 30 Frames
    S(L) L = 30 Frames
    T H = 48 Frames
    S(R) H = 46 Frames
    S(L) H = 46 Frames
    ZA = 46 Frames

    ---

    PeaceKeeper

    T L = 31 Frames
    S(R) L = 31 Frames
    S(L) L = 31 Frames
    T H = 49 Frames
    S(R) H = 48 Frames
    S(L) H = 48 Frames
    ZA = 18 frames

    So as you can clearly see, there are many characters that have the same or better attack speed, even Lawbringer's top light is faster than PKs, not to mention Warden's top light.

    Can you guys now stop with that " I can't block because she is too fast or because my block switch is too slow or mimimi or cry cry cry"?
    THANK YOU
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  2. #2
    Yet a lot of people complain about PK. Nah keep telling yourself you have skills man and the reason you get owned with other characters is because PK "fits your style". Im not all that good at the game but if you spam dodge light with PK you have no skills as far as I'm concerned.

    There's a couple other characters who seem to take little skills to play imo but PK is by far the worst and most abused.
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  3. #3
    ill still double team every pk i see she is to easy to use when i pull her out with no armor or prestige n beat 108 lawbringers n warlords
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    Originally Posted by RaidoKnight Go to original post
    Attack Startup Frame Data Based On 60FPS For Some Heroes:

    L = Light
    H = Heavy
    T = Top
    S(L) = Left
    S(R) = Right
    ZA = Zone Attack[/B]






    So as you can clearly see, there are many characters that have the same or better attack speed, even Lawbringer's top light is faster than PKs, not to mention Warden's top light.

    Can you guys now stop with that " I can't block because she is too fast or because my block switch is too slow or mimimi or cry cry cry"?
    THANK YOU
    b/c your info is correct even though the community cant agree on measurement standards for what you purport to be true. thanks confirmation bias, you save me every time!
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    This guy posted numbers. I am totally and 100% convinced immediately.
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  6. #6
    Peacekeeper is too fast mimimii
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    Originally Posted by RaidoKnight Go to original post
    Attack Startup Frame Data Based On 60FPS For Some Heroes:

    L = Light
    H = Heavy
    T = Top
    S(L) = Left
    S(R) = Right
    ZA = Zone Attack[/B]






    So as you can clearly see, there are many characters that have the same or better attack speed, even Lawbringer's top light is faster than PKs, not to mention Warden's top light.

    Can you guys now stop with that " I can't block because she is too fast or because my block switch is too slow or mimimi or cry cry cry"?
    THANK YOU
    The thing is that you can see warden and Orochi changing they weapon to the other side. But PK has 2 blades, as a nobushi I can defend left to right light attacks from Orochi and barely from zerker, but I don't have enough time to defend against PK.
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    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    This guy posted numbers. I am totally and 100% convinced immediately.
    ouch, braindead much?

    Originally Posted by untchable704 Go to original post
    Yet a lot of people complain about PK. Nah keep telling yourself you have skills man and the reason you get owned with other characters is because PK "fits your style". Im not all that good at the game but if you spam dodge light with PK you have no skills as far as I'm concerned.

    There's a couple other characters who seem to take little skills to play imo but PK is by far the worst and most abused.
    I'm a Valk main, I just can't stand all those crybabies like you. People who can't handle sidestep spammers are garbage at blocking, nothing else.

    Originally Posted by ryan4321 Go to original post
    ill still double team every pk i see she is to easy to use when i pull her out with no armor or prestige n beat 108 lawbringers n warlords

    Sure, because Warlords are not by far the strongest character in the game. hahaha
    Thanks for proving my point.
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  9. #9
    Very much appreciated.

    Could you please try to figure out how negative the techs make you?

    Could you tell us how this was measured?

    Not hating or anyhing. From what I barely remember of my testing, this could be right. I tested it with blocking PK's front step heavy. It leaves the characters even (as you can test with PK's mirror).
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    i think you are forgetting about the stagger effert on attacks and that is where the problem is. if you dont block the first light attack you will get a stagger on you and the time to recover from that effect can have a longer frames than the light attack from PKs or any fast hit classes and that is why some classes can do light attack spamming, for that problem to be fix is just to remove stagger from light attacks so you have a better chance to block and that will remove light attacks spammers in the game
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