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    As a Buddhist...

    As a Buddhist, I often pray at my grandmother and late grandfather's temple
    and we have Swastikas since its a holy symbol for our religious beliefs and traditional beliefs.

    Just wondering here
    Were I to use the symbol of my luck
    Would I be considered offensive?
    I mean back when i was 15 and studying in Australia, I was called into the principal's office... (An All boys Catholic highschool)
    and there was some teachers who thought I was being offensive
    but the Principal being a Priest/Brother understood the symbol and allow me to keep it on.. so long as it remains hidden


    :/
    Seriously though
    The difference between Nazi and Buddhist Swastika
    is the Nazi one is tilted to the side...
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    They don't care, they're similar enough.
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    There's been a lot of discussion about that:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ji-VS-Swastika

    If you want the short answer, yes, even using the upright version, people will probably take offense or assume you're trying to "get away" with using the Nazi one without technically using it. Chances are, Ubi will side with the people who are offended with it. It's unfortunate that one group had to ruin things for decades to come like that, but as you're posting this ahead of using it, I suspect you understand.
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    Originally Posted by Darizuka Go to original post
    As a Buddhist, I often pray at my grandmother and late grandfather's temple
    and we have Swastikas since its a holy symbol for our religious beliefs and traditional beliefs.

    Just wondering here
    Were I to use the symbol of my luck
    Would I be considered offensive?
    I mean back when i was 15 and studying in Australia, I was called into the principal's office... (An All boys Catholic highschool)
    and there was some teachers who thought I was being offensive
    but the Principal being a Priest/Brother understood the symbol and allow me to keep it on.. so long as it remains hidden


    :/
    Seriously though
    The difference between Nazi and Buddhist Swastika
    is the Nazi one is tilted to the side...
    Difference between Fck you sign and peace sign is only one finger. I respect your religion but you must understand that you don't realize what Nazi ideology did to Europe. You might know it, you might have learned it but it is all just numbers for you. You should visit Auschwitz in Poland, one of German death camps. You should see all the stuff and "experience" it for yourself. Could you perhaps use suavastik(the one facing left)? It is something bit more different than angle of swastika, and it should be ok.
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    Originally Posted by SiewcaRaka Go to original post
    Difference between Fck you sign and peace sign is only one finger. I respect your religion but you must understand that you don't realize what Nazi ideology did to Europe. You might know it, you might have learned it but it is all just numbers for you. You should visit Auschwitz in Poland, one of German death camps. You should see all the stuff and "experience" it for yourself. Could you perhaps use suavastik(the one facing left)? It is something bit more different than angle of swastika, and it should be ok.
    thing is, even if i use Suavastik, Im sure some people will argue as others would and think im a secret Nazi or troll.
    :/
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    Originally Posted by Darizuka Go to original post
    thing is, even if i use Suavastik, Im sure some people will argue as others would and think im a secret Nazi or troll.
    :/
    But then it will be less likely that you will get banned for those, as Suavastik had nothing to do with nazi ideology.
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    Originally Posted by Prophit618 Go to original post
    There's been a lot of discussion about that:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ji-VS-Swastika

    If you want the short answer, yes, even using the upright version, people will probably take offense or assume you're trying to "get away" with using the Nazi one without technically using it. Chances are, Ubi will side with the people who are offended with it. It's unfortunate that one group had to ruin things for decades to come like that, but as you're posting this ahead of using it, I suspect you understand.

    I've been getting into trouble in my youth when studying in western countries because alot of people cant tell the difference...
    whereas I mean in Asia its acceptable since most asian countries still hold onto buddhism and/or tradition.
    Its just sad that people are so offended over symbols without even looking deeply into the roots of said symbol

    E.g. Upside down Cross.
    To Hollywood and most stupid people they assume its the sign of Satanism and whatnot

    and whereas to educated Catholics and such,
    Its the Cross of Saint Peter.
    Since Saint Peter didnt feel he was worthy to die in the same way as Jesus, he requested his Cross be pointed upside down
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    Originally Posted by SiewcaRaka Go to original post
    But then it will be less likely that you will get banned for those, as Suavastik had nothing to do with nazi ideology.
    Buddhist swastika had nothing to do with Nazi Ideology aswell.
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  9. #9
    Originally Posted by Darizuka Go to original post
    Buddhist swastika had nothing to do with Nazi Ideology aswell.
    But swastika did. You can't simply say "guys, you remember the sign that was used by inhuman ideology that murdered millions of people just because they were cutting foreskins off? Forget about it and be aware that from now on its symbol of my religion AGAIN"(you know, it was your symbol, nazi came, and now it is yours again). It doesn't work like this. We got families killed for nothing. We had people slaughtered like cattle. There is no way to just forget what this symbol meant during war and say its ok now.
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    Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, though a symbol may represent something different to you that doesn't change it's collective meaning. And so because people are ignorant it will continue that way.

    Another example is the cross. In Roman times it was a symbol of death, great shame, and suffering. When Christ resurrected He turned it into a symbol of hope. Now people wear a miniature version of the torture symbol around their necks or on their skin.

    In time the symbol may change but in the grand scope of history the scars of the Nazi regime are still fresh.
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