How to deal with PK dodge spamming? | Forums

[PokePokeBleed]

As a conq I'm getting pretty up there in terms of player skill, and alot of pks I run into just go for rapid lights/zone or a grab if they can manage it, and spam dodge out of range to escape. Because of conqs slow GB time I can't even punish them with it, and blocking lunge doesn't give you many counter attack options because of their rapid recovery. Every so often if I can read and predict them I can pull of a heavy punish with its superior armor startup but typically they are just too fast recovery and spamming to even do that.

How do you deal with it? With no stamina costs its a constant game of trying to get lucky with predictions but highly skilled ones just seem to abuse dodge speed/how far it moves you and conq is entirely to slow to grab them out of it, or if they mixup with lunges instead you just get stabbed and bled for it.

Even turtling till revenge they just spam dodge out of range constantly and wait it out. Is it beatable or should I just suck it up and accept I'm outclassed by good PK players.

I can deal with bad/spammy ones easily, its just the ones that poke/bleed and dodge out of range constantly that get me.

Edit this is PK specific, orochi/zerkers don't really feel like they have the same dodge speed, no the spacing a single dodge it gives. PK dodge just seems way faster and gives them WAY more distance then any other hero

[TCTF_SWAT]

Play defense, throw out some GB when they just want to dodge with no attack.

After you condition to tone down the dodges then go on the attack. An assassin just waiting for you to attack is asking for trouble.

[Aarpian]

In a nutshell - you can't. If the PK doesn't want to fight there's nothing you can do to make him. Higher sprint speed, huge i-frames and tiny recovery frames on dodges accompanied by massive range means you're **** out of luck.

[zide-]

PK is broken so there currently is nothing you can do to make her not spam stabs and dodges.

[Juuzaam]

Almost every Hero got these problems vs a strong PK. There is basicly nothing you can do, you just cant catch them.
Only option is to play on their terms, means you defend, while they attack and hope for a few wholes in their offense.

[Dude_of_Valor]

I would say you need to try and corner them into a position they cannot dodge from. You will need to keep your distance and be good at positional play but taking away one of their best attributes will help no doubt.

Sometimes in matches I find I need to think outside of the box to achieve victory.

[spuge1]

I play mostly PK and cong is one of hardest opponent i can get =/.

where PK lose to cong:
- You know pk dont have anyting to brake you guard if you are on point whit your shield block? we dont have bash or head put or kick or anyting like it. you have superios block what knock back USE IT.
- most time i cannot get guard brake done because they know its my only solution for brake good blocker.
- and hitting whit light or heavy attack is ... well risky if he block (what good players do) i pay whit 50% of my hp =/
- if im cornered shield bash combo is also very devastating. only way to dodge it is jump backward but if i dont have that space? if i dont die i lose 75%hp
- It is also ******** cong dont have faint. he can change any move to instant "block all" stand what is followed whit bash + grap or heavy hit. work too well vs anyone ho is looking to spam light attacks. Faint havy change it to block all + bash after light attack. she is not trying spam move after you do this twise.
- o boy if cong get revenge mode. one bash = instant death. you really think us cowards if we dont take that fight where ods are vs us 90/10?

In other hand:
- cong should never EVER run shield bash to combat 99,9% do it. do you whant to know how easy it is to dodge and give free stab?
- if pk start light spam have you ever consideren jumping backwards out? or simply use block all + bash? you know you dont win spam fight why 70% players still try it? im foolis if i dont take easy win if its given me on silver plate like this.
- also random akward heavy attacks are free tickets to riposte hits. every pk is lookin for riposte hits.
- also charging attack is ticet to free gp vs most players. (some players use this too as feint and mix it whit block or bash.)
- after all pk is "fast assassin class" and we keep all rights to choose when we fight. sadly cong have noting to say about it or you do but we give you 0 ****s for your opinion ^^

But true is like you said fight is mostlikely desided by PK if she dont whant to fight there is not much cong can do about it. but its work other around too vs good cong there is noting i can do to him. attacker will lose. definetly cong have still edge.

[Aarpian]

I play mostly PK and cong is one of hardest opponent i can get =/.

where PK lose to cong:
- You know pk dont have anyting to brake you guard if you are on point whit your shield block? we dont have bash or head put or kick or anyting like it. you have superios block what knock back USE IT.
- most time i cannot get guard brake done because they know its my only solution for brake good blocker.
- and hitting whit light or heavy attack is ... well risky if he block (what good players do) i pay whit 50% of my hp =/
- if im cornered shield bash combo is also very devastating. only way to dodge it is jump backward but if i dont have that space? if i dont die i lose 75%hp
- It is also ******** cong dont have faint. he can change any move to instant "block all" stand what is followed whit bash + grap or heavy hit. work too well vs anyone ho is looking to spam light attacks. Faint havy change it to block all + bash after light attack. she is not trying spam move after you do this twise.
- o boy if cong get revenge mode. one bash = instant death. you really think us cowards if we dont take that fight where ods are vs us 90/10?

In other hand:
- cong should never EVER run shield bash to combat 99,9% do it. do you whant to know how easy it is to dodge and give free stab?
- if pk start light spam have you ever consideren jumping backwards out? or simply use block all + bash? you know you dont win spam fight why 70% players still try it? im foolis if i dont take easy win if its given me on silver plate like this.
- also random akward heavy attacks are free tickets to riposte hits. every pk is lookin for riposte hits.
- also charging attack is ticet to free gp vs most players. (some players use this too as feint and mix it whit block or bash.)
- after all pk is "fast assassin class" and we keep all rights to choose when we fight. sadly cong have noting to say about it or you do but we give you 0 ****s for your opinion ^^

But true is like you said fight is mostlikely desided by PK if she dont whant to fight there is not much cong can do about it. but its work other around too vs good cong there is noting i can do to him. attacker will lose. definetly cong have still edge.

PK is literally the strongest character in the game vs conq.

[SeeNoWeevil]

Conqueror has no mixups against Peacekeeper. She can literally step out of all/most of his offence.

[YutoJW]

PK are the strongest against anyone, we're talking about conquer or warlord(they have the all block stance) I'm a ***ing lawbringer! Have u ever try to play a lawbringer against a PK?
In this moment there's nothing, nothing you can do against a PK (if he know a bit he's class).
I mean everybody says This is a problem except the people who use the PK, and ubi will not do anything because come one, assassins it's too cool for nerf
**** it