Revenge is ruining this game | Forums

[Mr_Gallows]

I understand how this could be frustrating, but I personally don't really see it as a problem. I think it really all depends on your character's loadout and what gear they have. Sure they may be able to stack the revenge gain pretty quickly, but if you're using gear with high attack the trade-off is usually extremely low defense. I have a loadout on my rep 5 Berserker where I NEED that revenge stack because he's a glass cannon. More often than not, I get killed long before I even get to trigger my revenge because my defense is so low even the weakest characters only need to hit me once or twice with a strong attack to kill me. The better the gear you find, the more painful the trade-offs are. My axes have maxed out attack but my defense bar seriously just looks like a tally mark rather than a bar.

I don't know what gear you have but with purple gear that is false. You have have both attack and defence High. You can also have max revenge gain seperate from that, plus revenge attack and defence. Revenge is an emergency mechanic they implemented because their combat system does not allow free movement while fighting. Currently everyone just look like christmas candles all the time. Fortunately the developers will nerf revenge.

[Mjolnir1337]

I don't know what gear you have but with purple gear that is false. You have have both attack and defence High. You can also have max revenge gain seperate from that, plus revenge attack and defence. Revenge is an emergency mechanic they implemented because their combat system does not allow free movement while fighting. Currently everyone just look like christmas candles all the time. Fortunately the developers will nerf revenge.

Its too bad, but the problem isnt revenge but the items.

NOrmal quality items = Lose 1, gain 1 stat.
Blue quality = lose 1, gain 1 stat (at a higher degree of gain)
Purple? Lose1 gain TWO stats.


The problem isnt Revenge, the problem is the purple gear gives you 2 stats instead of 1. You can max "Revenge mode gain" AND the defense AND The attack...


If they merely nerfed Purple gear to ONLY give 1 stat (at max at 18) and a loss of 1 stat. It would be much more balanced and (IMO) more fun to mess around with builds.

You want max Revenge Gain? Great! But you dont get Revenge Attack or Revenge Defense.

You want those? Great! You lose on revenge GAIN then too.

On your weapon. You want High attack? OK cool, cant have high stam AND high defense.
Want high Stamina? Great! Cant have high attack.

BTW this also solves some of the ZA spamming as well.

[MercenaryJames]

I'm 108, not only is my Revenge stacked, but my Attack is max, Revenge att, is pretty much max, my stam regen is near max, basically I'm solid. Best of luck if you think you can take me 1v1 in Dominion because I'll just pop my revenge and it's over then. Oh, my Debuff, resistance and throw distance is low? Ok. I just won't get grabbed. Why do I care about throw distance? If I make you fall on your *** and you're only a foot away I can keep you in range and keep hitting you. I can kill in two shots. Tell me how I'm not broken with my current build? Unless it's the Peacekeeper (Which is just broken right now) also with maxed stats, I almost have zero trouble.

It's broken.

[Mr_Gallows]

Considering the extra damage you get everyone would still just spec for max revenge as it is superiour with or without those other stats.

[Mjolnir1337]

Considering the extra damage you get everyone would still just spec for max revenge as it is superiour with or without those other stats.

Umm... what are you talking about? If Purple gear only gave you ONE stat to max, not TWO, how would you "max revenge"?

Are you talking about maxing damage/defense or maxing revenge GAIN? Because right now you can do BOTH. Making Purples allow for only 1 stat means you would be forced to trade off.

Sure you could max revenge GAIN but then lose "Attack" and "Defense". Which means you can still get Revenge fast, but cant 2 shot and cant live long in Revenge (atleast as long as you can now).

I bet the "meta" would turn into maxing Revenge Attack and Revenge Gain on defense - but thats your choice then. You wont max Revenge on damage taken nor will you max Revenge Defense.

Not to mention maxing Revenge Duration means low Exhaust recovery OR debuff resistance.

Not to mention if you wanted to max attack on your weapon you WONT get "stamina" maxed which means no more spamming attacks and spamming ZA.... Or you CAN max stamina, but then wont hit as hard.

It literally solves the problem. I dont get why its so difficult to see that Purple Gear is the problem. Not the mechanics themselves.

[Civrus]

Honestly, if we only had access to common gear (and couldn't level up gear), 4v4 modes would be more balanced.

[Mr_Gallows]

With no gear revenge works fine, which is why most people complain about revenge gear and not revenge in general. Without any revenge gear stats, revenge works just fine.

Generally the game plays so much better without stats 😄

[Mjolnir1337]

Honestly, if we only had access to common gear (and couldn't level up gear), 4v4 modes would be more balanced.

Or if the leveling up "severity" wasnt crazy like it is now. With 100% maxing 1 stat and nearly maxing a second stat....

If INSTEAD all "adding 1 level" did was the SAME linear benefit from lvl 1 -> 18... The game would be golden. A lvl 18 would give some advantage, but not 100% maxing a stat.

[Gemini-Iceland]

With no gear revenge works fine, which is why most people complain about revenge gear and not revenge in general. Without any revenge gear stats, revenge works just fine.

Generally the game plays so much better without stats ��

Yeah, I totally agree with this. I love the fighting/balance in duel/brawls (with exceptions, but on a whole better).
I do love the 4v4 modes though but playing them now is just boring with this revenge situation. Only fun games I find are the rare ones with no purple gear people in it. Those are getting rarer every day now.

[SiRPattate.]

With no gear revenge works fine, which is why most people complain about revenge gear and not revenge in general. Without any revenge gear stats, revenge works just fine.

Generally the game plays so much better without stats ��

Yea that's it, the game will just be FUN