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[Huldrych-ZX]

Look what I found:

https://youtu.be/GLfP-eV_0Bs

Now, lets all agree that this particular conqueror ain't the best player out there not is the class itself the most versatile, yet it depicts well enough how much of a pain it can be to fight this beared women.
Spam that sh¡t + ??? = profit. Also, tell your opponent "l2p" for extra profit in your salt investments.

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[Huldrych-ZX]

As a Valkyrie mainer - and a fairly good one if i have to say so myself - ill give tou this 1 tip against us;
Block!

1 single block is all it takes to reset a valkyrie. And if you're a skilled opponent you can block atleast once.
Like 80% of our attacks are light attacks. Whereas every other class can "safely" (relatively anyway) open with a heavy, a valkyrie will just own herself if she tries it.

She is a high-risk class; she can dominate if the opponent lets her, but she is by far the easiest class to reset.

You speak truth, yet I invite you to watch the video I just posted.
Blocking does the job, sure, I give you as much, yet it's easier said than done once you're caught up in that combo. Should it starts you can bid half your health goodbye (If not more). Also, one thing is blocking, another one is attacking.
As I said previously, Valkyries aren't too much of a trouble if I'm using the warden (main), orochi or pk, but with warlord, conqueror and lawbringer (second main) it's nearly impossible for me to deal damage, specially with lawbringer. Also, lawbringer seems to have a considerably slower timing on his guard stance change, which adds more difficulty to just block.

[Felis_Menari]

Look what I found:

https://youtu.be/GLfP-eV_0Bs

Now, lets all agree that this particular conqueror ain't the best player out there not is the class itself the most versatile, yet it depicts well enough how much of a pain it can be to fight this beared women.
Spam that sh¡t + ??? = profit. Also, tell your opponent "l2p" for extra profit in your salt investments.

Also, please:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...0037-Send-help

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I love how the Conqueror and Valkyrie shield bash each other at roughly the same time and the Valkyrie's bash always won. If anything the two bashes should result in a clash that cancels both of them out. I am so not looking forward to dealing with that cheese.

[SyX_VulgarAjko]

Ok i am not best Valky on the server but i can no do pretty well things...here is my stats .[IMG] image uploader[/IMG] i have not best ratio many matchs lost from start cause was hard handle Valk from launch against all i think . In higher rank of play she is tottaly predicable .. Example:1 Bash/tackle=Options:1.leg sweep [Ez dodge hard punish free GB]...2.GB not guaranted L2P counter... 3.Light attack not guaranted can be blocked. 2. Hunter rush,Pouncing thrust [dodge attack,up jumping attack] after simple block u can be punish from free GB. Dodge block frame is fck UP! Valk respond to dodges are horrible [exist some videos to confirm it]. Ok attack speed now for majority is the problem let w8 some days where next wave players learn do correct blocks etc... and she will fall back to low tier.

PS: her recover time is HORRIBLE.
PS1: She is mix of tank and assasin but she have from 90% only weaknes from both class. [Low HP from assasins,Attacks quick, WEAK and long recovery time,Sometimes bugged GUARD.. etc]
PS2:Sorry for broken Language.
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[Eleanor-Ripley]

You speak truth, yet I invite you to watch the video I just posted.
Blocking does the job, sure, I give you as much, yet it's easier said than done once you're caught up in that combo. Should it starts you can bid half your health goodbye (If not more). Also, one thing is blocking, another one is attacking.
As I said previously, Valkyries aren't too much of a trouble if I'm using the warden (main), orochi or pk, but with warlord, conqueror and lawbringer (second main) it's nearly impossible for me to deal damage, specially with lawbringer. Also, lawbringer seems to have a considerably slower timing on his guard stance change, which adds more difficulty to just block.

Ive had several opponents dodge out of that sweep. Its definately possible to get out of it.
And if you block a valk her lack of recovery will guarantie you a hit - warlords specifically wreck valkyries if played like the counter class they are.
Counter-classes (and PK) are a Valks worst nightmare since their strength completely shuts down the Valk.

Lawbringer being slow to block is a problem yes. One ubi will adress in the near future. His failure is not tied to Valk bring OP but rather his class being UP.

[Special4ces Dom]

I don't know dude... I think every character that only gives you 0.5 seconds to react to their attacks is full of crap.
Like I need to take 3 cans of Redbull before logging in just to stand a chance anymore.

[Traktorash]

As a Valkyrie mainer - and a fairly good one if i have to say so myself - ill give tou this 1 tip against us;
Block!

1 single block is all it takes to reset a valkyrie. And if you're a skilled opponent you can block atleast once.
Like 80% of our attacks are light attacks. Whereas every other class can "safely" (relatively anyway) open with a heavy, a valkyrie will just own herself if she tries it.

She is a high-risk class; she can dominate if the opponent lets her, but she is by far the easiest class to reset.

Mmm noticed this myself... wether it's lag (this game realy needs a ping display) or my own ineptitude, valk seems near imposible to parry but as long as you block her she can't chain into the sweep

[SethUnleashed]

As a Valkyrie mainer - and a fairly good one if i have to say so myself - ill give tou this 1 tip against us;
Block!

1 single block is all it takes to reset a valkyrie. And if you're a skilled opponent you can block atleast once.
Like 80% of our attacks are light attacks. Whereas every other class can "safely" (relatively anyway) open with a heavy, a valkyrie will just own herself if she tries it.

She is a high-risk class; she can dominate if the opponent lets her, but she is by far the easiest class to reset.

as a valk main myself, THIS is what is totally true.

while her light attacks are fast now, she is still slower than a PK AND her recovery times are way longer than a PK, so shutting down a valk will give you time to breathe and think about the next move.

against a good player, i HARDLY ever get 2 lights in a row and you have to get creative to open up turtle players as most of your moves are pretty predictable and IF you miss, once again your recovery is long and will get punished hard.

Mmm noticed this myself... wether it's lag (this game realy needs a ping display) or my own ineptitude, valk seems near imposible to parry but as long as you block her she can't chain into the sweep

dont parry her light attacks... its the same with PK, BUT as said above: PK has faster recovery after a block, so they can keep the pressure up better.

block to reset and count her moves... every 3rd attack might be a sweep.

Counter-classes (and PK) are a Valks worst nightmare since their strength completely shuts down the Valk.

true, allthough most of them tend to overuse side-dodge-attacks which can be baited pretty easy.

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watched the video and seeing a HEAVY with a shield not being able to block her just shows that this is a pure "learn to play" issue.
only time i actually land 2 lights in a row against a conqu or warlord is when they either are bad or think they can be over aggressive.

also: seeing you complain about her sweep while mostly just using shield-charge spamming makes you quite the hypocrite dont you think?

some more stuff:
- a fully charged shield-tackle is more powerfull than your light shield-slam because it takes longer to perform (would be dumb if it wasnt this way)
- you dont attack into a all-guard valk, you need to be ready for the dodge
- you can dodge EVERY sweep but one (if you get knocked down because out of stamina, she can get 2 lights and an undodgable sweep... so dont go out of stamina)

[Huldrych-ZX]

watched the video and seeing a HEAVY with a shield not being able to block her just shows that this is a pure "learn to play" issue.
only time i actually land 2 lights in a row against a conqu or warlord is when they either are bad or think they can be over aggressive.

also: seeing you complain about her sweep while mostly just using shield-charge spamming makes you quite the hypocrite dont you think?

some more stuff:
- a fully charged shield-tackle is more powerfull than your light shield-slam because it takes longer to perform (would be dumb if it wasnt this way)
- you dont attack into a all-guard valk, you need to be ready for the dodge
- you can dodge EVERY sweep but one (if you get knocked down because out of stamina, she can get 2 lights and an undodgable sweep... so dont go out of stamina)

I doesn't make me a hypocrite, my friend, because I'm not the one that made the video Shield bashing is, to me, as much of a ****ty move as it is her shield bashing + sweep. That's why I stated that he's not the best conqueror out there.

Also, sure, I tend to dodge that sweep, yet the recovery time on some characters isn't enough for a block on the follow up assuming I fail to dodge the sweep. Again, with the warden I make dem valkyries mah *****es, but with other characters I just can't block them and get caught easily on their combo.

One more thing... you didn't even clicked on that link, didn't you? :c

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...0037-Send-help

It's about the ****ing error 006000037 or something. I need help with that.

[AKDagriZ]

Im also a main Valk (p7).

tough im really good with her due to lot of training .In duel, skilled Warden will beat me 3 out of 5.Conqueror will give me hard time as well.Skilled assasin will be able to deflect me and win, if not , i will destroy their weak guard with the Valk by feinting.Especially if they try to keep distance.

Other Valk will win against me if they know how to spam their vortex abilities.Wich suck.Spamming vortex does not impress me at all.

if you dont keep your guard high or try to dodge the vortex or even let her connect a GB on you .Your ****ed ! If you let her dodge back your are also in big trouble.

But in dominion mode she fear no one.