I've waited for this game to settle and I still believe this. He does way to much damage. His heavy attacks are the faster than most, if not all others and they take away my entire health everytime. He's supposed to be a glass canon I get it, but when I get a combo on him it only takes a quarter of his health. If I mess up once I die. Never fails. If you need proof, tell me why I can't play a single game without seeing one? They're in EVERY GAME.
Orochis are great counter attackers, but thats about it. They tend to be really bad against turtling, as they have probably the poorest initiation moves in the game. Don't go blindly against them, especially if they are super defensive, use lots of feints, bait them into zephyr and parry it which is super easy. Overall Orochis are weak, but they are noob stompers, but once you figure them out they super suck
I feel like my skill level is high enough that with a Warden / Warlord advantage I should be able to beat 95% of all Orochis... So I challenge you to play your Orochi vs my Warden. Unless you are the Justin Wong (Street fight Pro) of For Honor, you won't be able to overcome the natural advantage of the Warden.
Also, the idea that most picked = most powerful is ridiculous, it's borderline superstitious. WHY? Do most player play at the highest level and understand the game mathematically and mechanically? No. Most players are noobs who's playing a game for cheap stress relieving fun. Their opinion into balance is highly questionable.
Orochis' have ZERO strong 50/50 options. If I just block/parry/CGB all day... What can you possibly do theoretically speaking? You won't even be able to THINK of a method to beat a defensive player with Orochi. They are THAT weak. They are actually low tier, not even close to being powerful.
Warden and warlord are the most powerful/ easy classes to play. I'm not saying he is impervious, but his damge is so high it feels like a dark souls boss. Mess up once and you die. Also some characters can't turtle. Ever tried berserker? He was literally built to be an attacker. Too everyone else, insisting I'm a noob is misguided, I played both betas and have a 4th prestige character. That might not be alot for some people but I'm far from a noob. I don't think he's really that bad as far as options. His speed and damage are just unbalanced. If you think its fair for someone to hammer a guy for the whole fight and lose in a half second frome two hits you're biased.Originally Posted by The_Mensan Go to original post
Also. Its obvious the love for this character. This post has been up around an hour and its already has this many people telling me I'm wrong.
Did you read the post? I didn't say anything about his guard. I was taking about his damage. Also every assassin doesn't have a full guard. That doesnt mean anything.Originally Posted by Flyin Japman4 Go to original post
Orochi is properly sh*t tier in higher play levels, to the point where hes arguably the worst right now and needs a huge buff, if you gonna argue against it you rly need to git gutt by definitionOriginally Posted by J_Hamm Go to original post
I think gear might also be an influence in this. If you fight an Orochi in a duel, he actually needs to hit you quite often. But an Orochi with maximum gear can kill you with 2 guardbreaks and 2 top heavies.
In duel mode I don't see the Orochi being overpowered. Seeing as most people play dominion, you probably experienced this playing dominion?