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[STRlKEBOMB]

Lawbringer should have the 1 hit invincibility like the fat guy (I think its the Shugoki) cause it makes sense since he's a f'ing tank. His health should also be increased for the same reason. And then he should have faster attacks. Those would easily fix some of the problems with the lawbringer.

[Nosmer1]

I miss only two things on LB: attack speed and guard speed. As a buff, increasing his stam a bit could help. Kinda stupid that you go exausted from one parry.

[The_Mensan]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-big-questions

''So in terms of frequency, I can't really tell you. What I can tell you is we're going to continue to update it, and there is a ****load of stuff we want to fix and balance. We want to buff up the Lawbringer and the Raider a bit. Yes, definitely we want to buff them, but actually they are really good in group fight scenarios.''

it seems lawbringer and raider will only get small adjustments because Ubisoft will balance the game around 4vs4 casual game modes.

Thoughts?

4v4 is the main game mode... I am not sure why you deemed it "casual". The "duel" and "brawl" modes are watered down version of dominion for children who haven't got the gear and is too afraid of someone else's 10% advantage.

Dominion is the MAIN MODE of the game.

[The_Mensan]

As a Raider / Lawbringer that sucks at 1v1... I can literally determine single handedly whether or not my team wins in Dominion / Skirmish mode. The long push / throw of Raider and Lawbringer is totally OP in those modes. You can stay out of view... Charge it with your impale and it's over. They are the only class that I use to get my 8 kill streak in Dominion / Skirmish Order. It's so easy with their high damage, long range and environmental kill abilities.

In 1v1, Raider is I think THE WORST hero. He has no options, he's slow AND he can't even get a heavy attack off a GB / Parry (most other heroes can). He's almost intentionally gimped in 1v1. His "stunning tap" is also useless against good player because they can still dodge your slow attack without indicators.

[IroncIad]

Raider can get a heavy attack off of GB, you just have to do top heavy instead of side unlike other classes.

[Dekallis]

LB doesn't need major reworking, his counters are solid, it's just up to the player's ability to recognize what he's parrying and what he can get off that. If you can recognize and parry lights LB is pretty strong particularly against assassins that lean on side attacks since sides are always lights. Most people don't seem to realize parrying a light has more advantageous properties than parrying a heavy.
His shove game is also pretty strong his ability to reverse bad situations and shove his way out of corners to control positioning is good, he doesn't need major tweaks. Too much and he'll end up really OP. He's already quite strong in the hands of upper tier players.

Raider, needs his kit fixed, then he needs to be tweaked. Stunning tap is supposed to be a cancel from ANY heavy. Instead it only works on his FIRST heavy. Which severely limits his options. His stunning tap and his wall slam throw CANNOT exhaust an enemy and are bugged in that in scenarios where the enemy is very low on stamin they actually GIVE stamina back to the target. Which again limits his options, His running grab actually needs a tweak to reduce the startup and improve it's active frames because there are scenarios where you sorta hit and brush off the target because the active frames didn't start yet. As Raider is one of my mains I can say for sure he needs some kind of command throw that does damage. Because he's labaled a GRAPPLER with EMPHASIS ON THROWS and has no throws to speak of that give him any real advantage. Something like a command throw that can be done from neutral or canceled into would be perfect. Other than that I'm not sure what else they could change without raider becoming a monster.

[wetterberg]

Raider can get a heavy attack off of GB, you just have to do top heavy instead of side unlike other classes.

False.

[DJ_Masterson]

Honestly, what the Lawbringer needs to bring him into balance is better speed and a LITTLE more damage on his attacks. His guard change needs to be brought in line with other heroes' (along with the Raiders) as right now, we change our guard stance at one-third the speed of others. Our Light Attacks are laughably slow and I BELIEVE (could be wrong, would love someone to fact check this) do the less damage than literally every other heroes' Light Attacks. Our heavies don't really hit all that hard either and I do believe even our top-heavy unblockable does less damage than other unblockables while being FAR more difficult to actually land.

Fix his guard speed, fix his attack speed, give him SLIGHTLY more damage and I think the Lawbringer will be in a good spot.

Yes. Very much agreed. Hell, if they only do one of those things I want the attack speed buff. Just so he can have some more confirmed attacks.

[Knight_Raime]

he doesn't really need big buffs. small tweaks are just what he needs.

[TheCadian_]

he doesn't really need big buffs. small tweaks are just what he needs.

First off high five for the Dark Souls 2 Boss from Crown of the Old Iron King.

Secondly I totally agree. The Lawbringer doesn't need statistical changes to damage, hit points, or stamina. Those are all fine as of right now. What it does need however are small tweaks to make the combinations a little more effective/competitive.