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[itsPlanB]

You should probably go outside and play with your friends now.

Closed Alpha, Closed Beta, Open Beta, pre-ordered Gold, total of Rep 9 Orochi across all testing, Rep 2 Peacekeeper, Rep 3 Conqueror, Rep 3 Warden, Rep 6 Lawbringer, but I "have no clue."

[itsPlanB]

I personally struggle with guard break at times. Sometimes I'm on my A game. Sometimes I'm not. Played against a Warlord this morning. Every time he went max defense, I'd guardbreak and heavy. Killed him 5 or 6 times. If everyone could dodge a guard break then there wouldn't be all the topics started about guard breaking. When you make generalizations about what "everyone" can do you lessen your argument because now you look like a fool.

On a side note, it is possible that there is at least one player who is better than you. Maybe they're just beating you because they're better. I record every one of my games and go back and try to watch them when I'm on my lunch at work or when I'm laying in bed and the wife is watching some crap TV show that I just don't like. Getting better at a game is hard. For me its even harder because I often times don't understand what's being done to me at the time.

Just keep playing and keep trying. After all it is a chess match.

That is the problem. My counter attacks are totally useless. They are just not viable, and come on everyone can dodge a gb

[AveImperator85]

You should probably go outside and play with your friends now.

Implying I'm a child without a life, huh? Classy. I'm a working adult with a full-time job, tyvm. I was simply citing my experience with the game, indicating that I *do* in fact, have a clue. No need to be rude.

[Braegulfer]

Berserker is a dumpster fire at high-end play. He's ALMOST viable, but wins with him take a lot more work than most other classes in duels. Rep 4 cb, rep 3 ob, rep 6 now. I love the char, but his quick attack needs to be SLIGHTLY faster (every good opponent parries them with ease) and his recovery time off blocked lights needs to be EVEN a little quicker than it is post patch. Especially considering that he's the only character in the game without an unblockable attack.

Basically if an opponent is good enough to parry a light, and a ton are, then there is almost no way whatsoever for a berserker to win 1v1s.

[itsPlanB]

Take a long breath man. I even put a smiley in there to show I was kidding. If you're panties are that far up your butt, then maybe you should go outside and play with your friends. I was't being rude, you're just being an overly sensitive turd. Try taking a joke next time.

Implying I'm a child without a life, huh? Classy. I'm a working adult with a full-time job, tyvm. I was simply citing my experience with the game, indicating that I *do* in fact, have a clue. No need to be rude.

[AveImperator85]

Berserker is a dumpster fire at high-end play. He's viable, but wins with him take a lot more work than most other classes in duels. Rep 4 cb, rep 3 ob, rep 6 now. I love the char, but his quick attack needs to be SLIGHTLY faster and his recover time off blocked lights needs to be EVEN a little quicker than it is post patch.

Berserker can already spam attacks faster than some heroes can physically change their guard (not talking about player reflexes). Even if a block IS successful, Berserkers can continue their attack spam, unlike most other heroes. Also, considering a well-geared Berserker can 3-shot someone, I don't really think any buffs are in order.

[Gensui.Musashi]

All i want is more viable counter attacks. There isnt much i could "learn" about my char. Sure there is always space to become more skilled but rep 5 should atleast be enough to be decent.

[AveImperator85]

All i want is more viable counter attacks. There isnt much i could "learn" about my char. Sure there is always space to become more skilled but rep 5 should atleast be enough to be decent.

Well first of all, Rep doesn't equal skill, just experience. Orochi's counterattacks have been changed due to the way Deflect works now. You have to dodge in the direction of the attack during the Parry window, although it seems a little more finicky than Parry, honestly. That said, Orochi has one of, if not THE strongest Deflect Counterattack in the game with Hurricane Blast, so...not sure what you're asking for, really. Your Deflection Counterattacks are already unblockable and undodgable, with only the Heavy being slow enough to maybe interrupt. My advice would be to practice your Deflection timing.

If you want to know what a REAL struggle is regarding counterattacks, play Lawbringer.

[Braegulfer]

[QUOTE=AveImperator85;12396496]Berserker can already spam attacks faster than some heroes can physically change their guard (not talking about player reflexes). Even if a block IS successful, Berserkers can continue their attack spam, unlike most other heroes. Also, considering a well-geared Berserker can 3-shot someone, I don't really think any buffs are in order.[/QU The second attack is

Every decent lawbringer and shugoki and raider can overcome direction shift with trades. To do the 3 shot damage, that's a heavy and the telegraph is so huge...its GONNA get parried by good players 95% of the time. Lawbringers need to work for their wins too, I put them and berserker on the same level there. Are you completely satisfied with where lawbringer is at them moment?

I have way less problems with zerker in 4v4 modes, I think that's what he's better suited for, but he sucks in duels. Straight up.

[AveImperator85]

[QUOTE=Braegulfer;12396534]

Berserker can already spam attacks faster than some heroes can physically change their guard (not talking about player reflexes). Even if a block IS successful, Berserkers can continue their attack spam, unlike most other heroes. Also, considering a well-geared Berserker can 3-shot someone, I don't really think any buffs are in order.[/QU The second attack is

Every decent lawbringer and shugoki and raider can overcome direction shift with trades. To do the 3 shot damage, that's a heavy and the telegraph is so huge...its GONNA get parried by good players 95% of the time. Lawbringers need to work for their wins too, I put them and berserker on the same level there. Are you completely satisfied with where lawbringer is at them moment?

I have way less problems with zerker in 4v4 modes, I think that's what he's better suited for, but he sucks in duels. Straight up.

As a Lawbringer, I can only win a "trade" if I successfully block one of your attacks and can get the Shove in. Lawbringer changing Guard stance at 1/3rd the speed of other heroes, though, makes that harder, regardless of *my* reflexes, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Lawbringer doesn't have hyperarmor like the Shugoki and Warlord do and I don't have any experience with the Raider so I can't comment on that front. I do know that Lawbringer and Raider cannot change Guard stance fast enough to keep up with the attack spam from Assassins, though. That's actually been determined by hard data regarding attack frames vs guard change frames.