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    M4 ARs

    Massive please do something about ARs so people will use other ARs too not just m4 variants. Best suggestion i've seen was, make weapon damage on gloves be a percentage, so it will scale better with lower rpm guns.
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    I use a Black Market AK 74. Wouldn't change it for anything. Maybe, and i mean maybe for an LOAV-C With the same talents. Never been interested in the M4s
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    Originally Posted by TheToxicAgent Go to original post
    I use a Black Market AK 74. Wouldn't change it for anything. Maybe, and i mean maybe for an LOAV-C With the same talents. Never been interested in the M4s
    LVOA-C is an M4 variant
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    Originally Posted by TheToxicAgent Go to original post
    I use a Black Market AK 74. Wouldn't change it for anything. Maybe, and i mean maybe for an LOAV-C With the same talents. Never been interested in the M4s
    Yes, I'm using an AK too, but thing is, they would get more benefit if the weapon damage was lets say 5%, rather then 1300
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    Originally Posted by AnthonyS UK Go to original post
    LVOA-C is an M4 variant
    Ah....silly me. Shows how much I dont know
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    Yes massive, plz nerf something else. Because we don't think you've done that enough already!
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    Um a linear percentage increase would help all weapons equally... It is the rate of fire that ultimately dictates how powerful a weapon is. As the base would have to be quite a bit higher to compensate.

    Math stuff.


    1. The M4 with 850RPM can fire 14 rounds per second
    2. The AK with 600RPM can fire 10 rounds per second
    3. Lets give the M4 a damage of 19,000
    4. Lets give the AK a damage of 23,000
    5. In one second an M4 can do 266,000
    6. In one second an AK can do 230,000


    Point being if you multiply both of those numbers by a percentage it will just scale both of them proportionately. The only real fix is to either lower the damage of the M4, - which I think they should do - or increase the damage of the AK. However, to do so would require in that scenario a reduction of 2,500 damage per bullet from the M4, so 16,500 and it would still do slightly higher overall damage.

    TLDR: Higher RPM is pretty much king on most weapons as the base damage on slower RPM weapons is too low.
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    If you are using anything other than an M4 then you are only screwing yourself. Burst damage is the deciding factor and M4s just simply do it best.
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    The Lvoa is literally an M4 with more vertical recoil.
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    Originally Posted by Bloodjen Go to original post
    If you are using anything other than an M4 then you are only screwing yourself. Burst damage is the deciding factor and M4s just simply do it best.
    The best weapon is the most accurate one. If you can't aim the M4 and it's variants it is the most useless weapon. Not everyone is a good shot in this game.
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