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[Kharneth88]

Gray, if you see an ally successfully defeating an enemy, the question is not whether or not your assistance will help expedite the death of the enemy, but whether or not your assistance is more useful elsewhere.

If you have all 3 bases and you see an ally wrecking an enemy, by all means, go help him for that extra Takedown credit, but if your team doesn't have all of the bases than you should re-evaluate your sense of strategy. There have been occasions where I have been fighting an enemy and 2 allies have come to join me in killing him. They get in my way, they allow the enemy to pop revenge, and ultimately they are wasting resources, the resources of their own presence. In many of these situations I will break off and go elsewhere. Not because of some stupid sense of wanting to 1v1 enemies in Dominion, but of a greater strategical thinking that 3v1 is a bad idea because it means too many of our players are in a spot on the map where they shouldn't be.

If you are 3v1ing an enemy than chances are one of your allies is getting 2v1ed or 3v1ed somewhere, and if not, your enemies are off capturing bases. Point is, there are few instances where heavily outnumbering an enemy is the best tactic.

[Pope138]

lol stop baiting for reactions you troll.



If you consider that sentence 'agressive' then you have snowflake issues I can't help you with.

Alright bro, sheesh!
I see things like "whether you like it or not" and "wind your neck in a bit" and consider them emotional reactions. I'm sorry I got it so wrong. Seriously--I APOLOGIZE. We finished now?

[Gray360UK]

Gray, if you see an ally successfully defeating an enemy, the question is not whether or not your assistance will help expedite the death of the enemy, but whether or not your assistance is more useful elsewhere.

If you have all 3 bases and you see an ally wrecking an enemy, by all means, go help him for that extra Takedown credit, but if your team doesn't have all of the bases than you should re-evaluate your sense of strategy. There have been occasions where I have been fighting an enemy and 2 allies have come to join me in killing him. They get in my way, they allow the enemy to pop revenge, and ultimately they are wasting resources, the resources of their own presence. In many of these situations I will break off and go elsewhere. Not because of some stupid sense of wanting to 1v1 enemies in Dominion, but of a greater strategical thinking that 3v1 is a bad idea because it means too many of our players are in a spot on the map where they shouldn't be.

If you are 3v1ing an enemy than chances are one of your allies is getting 2v1ed or 3v1ed somewhere, and if not, your enemies are off capturing bases. Point is, there are few instances where heavily outnumbering an enemy is the best tactic.

Yeah I guess there's a difference between 'stupid' help and 'useful' help. The original post hinted at a 'my kill, go away' attitude that I never like to see in a team game. I have probably seen too many 'don't steal my kill' posts this week or something. If we are sticking to the premise that we just don't want idiots doing stupid things that aren't needed, then of course I'm not going to argue against that, I am not completely mad (only half). It works both ways though, as I already said, I've had people thank me for helping them, more than once per game in some cases, so it's not a black and white situation. There are times when joining a 1 vs 1 is the best thing you can do. If that was assumed all along then I'm not entirely sure why we needed the post, other than to say 'hey dumb people, don't do dumb things'. Does that ever work?

[Munktor]

The original post hinted at a 'my kill, go away' attitude


​No, it didn't.

[Exaffect]

Yea, 4v4 is a mess.

Most don't seem to understand that it's really unhelpful to just mash on an enemy that's already almost dead. Then they revenge and usually kill 1 or 2 people. Those same people that die then come to the forums to cry about revenge and respond to posts like this with, "this game isn't 1v1, bro. It's teamplay".

What people really mean is, "mine, mine, mine, mine".

[Gray360UK]

The original post hinted at a 'my kill, go away' attitude


​No, it didn't.

Not going to argue with you over what my opinions are or whether I am allowed to have them or state them.

YES, IT DID. (to me)

Is size important somehow? I take it the bigger it is the more valid, right?

This is juvenile beyond belief.

Screw you and your opinion policing.

[Exaffect]

Not going to argue with you over what my opinions are or whether I am allowed to have them or state them.

YES, IT DID. (to me)

Is size important somehow? I take it the bigger it is the more valid, right?

This is juvenile beyond belief.

Screw you and your opinion policing.

No, it really didn't.

[Pope138]

Literally in the original post.

Ganking is part of the game, gank all you want but please don't help the enemy team while you are doing it.

[Munktor]

Not going to argue with you over what my opinions are or whether I am allowed to have them or state them.

YES, IT DID. (to me)

Is size important somehow? I take it the bigger it is the more valid, right?

This is juvenile beyond belief.

Screw you and your opinion policing.

Promise, not trying to police your opinion. I only changed the size to illustrate the reply versus the quote as I was too lazy to go back and properly quote it =)

Not sure why you refuse to admit that you made a small error and didn't really read his first post. He even has a segment where he states, "gank, gank often, it's part of the game".

He was moreso trying to illustrate that when people hit their own teammates and spam attack a guy that knows how to block, you're actually hurting // not helping.

It had NOTHING to do with 1v1's whatsoever. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of you jumping to conclusions and somehow trying to spin it like he made implications that led you to your thoughts (not that you didn't read it fully).

No hate though, go on accusing other people of being juvenile despite the fact you're doing the whole, "nuh uhhhh". Like I said the first time, I normally enjoy your posts and recognize you have some valuable things to say . I just think this board has gotten to you (like it has many others) and made you jump to the conclusion that this guy was just another one of the "1v1 me bro, no honor ***s jumping on my kills" guys.

[Gray360UK]

Promise, not trying to police your opinion. I only changed the size to illustrate the reply versus the quote as I was too lazy to go back and properly quote it =)

Not sure why you refuse to admit that you made a small error and didn't really read his first post. He even has a segment where he states, "gank, gank often, it's part of the game".

He was moreso trying to illustrate that when people hit their own teammates and spam attack a guy that knows how to block, you're actually hurting // not helping.

It had NOTHING to do with 1v1's whatsoever. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of you jumping to conclusions and somehow trying to spin it like he made implications that led you to your thoughts (not that you didn't read it fully).

No hate though, go on accusing other people of being juvenile despite the fact you're doing the whole, "nuh uhhhh". Like I said the first time, I normally enjoy your posts and recognize you have some valuable things to say . I just think this board has gotten to you (like it has many others) and made you jump to the conclusion that this guy was just another one of the "1v1 me bro, no honor ***s jumping on my kills" guys.

If you read my posts, and understood them, at all, at least two of things you claim to want to see me say have been said.
Your last sentence in this post is practically something I already said.

"I have probably seen too many 'don't steal my kill' posts this week or something"

and

"If we are sticking to the premise that we just don't want idiots doing stupid things that aren't needed, then of course I'm not going to argue against that"

Pretty much covers the rest, no?

I'm not sure why you picked a few words out of the post that contained both of those sentences, but ignored those, which seem to be what you are looking for?

It's all pedantics, and it all makes it seem like my every word is far more important than it is. Do my thought processes matter this much? Are you bored or something?