The revenge stats need to be removed from gear outright. | Forums

[JOHN19812017]

hell yeah bump

[War-Wolf9]

I disagree. There is an easy way to fix the revenge abuse already in game, but it's so easy nobody think about it...

JUST DON'T GANK.

I mean if you are 4v1, just go one after the other to kill the guy. That's that easy. If he is good enough to kill someone and try to execute, you grab him and you revive your fallen friend.
Really, if you gank you have no honor

NO HONOR = revenge punished

Seem normal for a game called "For honor" to punish unhonorable gankers. And whatever... If I hadn't revenge gear and 4 ppl after me, i'll just could keep running for 10 min through the whole map. Removing the revenge gear will make the things worst.

that's my thought

[Divenity]

that's my thought

Then read my response to him, it applies to you as well.

If you want to play 1v1, play 1v1 - 4v4 is a team game mode, that means: If you kill an enemy, you are supposed to take that player advantage you just created and put it to use, by helping your other teammates, that is how team based multiplayer games work.

[MercenaryJames]

Be careful OP, I tried explaining this in my own thread. And apparently I just have to be better and not gank. Because that's obviously the problem, and not the insane 108 GS, Revenge stack thats running rampant through 4v4 game modes. No, it's just you man. Clearly you just don't understand the finer points about the game.

Even AngryJoe in his review had a whole segment showing exactly how this ruins the balance of the game, because a Mechanic that was made to help those being ganked was being used to just slaughter people when your gear is stacked.

But no, man. It's just you. Just get better. (Sarcasm). Now that I'm Prestige 4 almost 5, my gear is stacked to Revenge so I'm part of the problem. But hey, that's the only way to play right now. And I'd be so happy to see it disappear.

KEEP Revenge, just remove the Gear stats. Done.

[War-Wolf9]

I'm seeing people complain a lot about this mostly people who love to 3v1 or 4v1 some one. its starting to sound like people are upset because its not easy to gank someone sorry if this offends but its a game called for honor there's nothing honorable about taking on 1 person with 3 of your buddies. I'm not saying I don't do it I do it for the win but I don't do it to make people miserable as I've seen some others do. when they chase around the same low level newb killing him over and over. and actually lose the match just to kill that same guy. its pathetic really

[Nina_Flowers]

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...1#post12397346

[Divenity]

I'm seeing people complain a lot about this mostly people who love to 3v1 or 4v1 some one.

No, we just want to end the match... If it's 4v1 you already lost, why do you want to be able to drag it out? Stop wasting everyone's time.

its starting to sound like people are upset because its not easy to gank someone

Like I told the other guy, and I will just copy paste this: It's not ganking, it's a 4v4, not 4 1v1s on the same map, the 1 is supposed to be at a severe disadvantage when outnumbered, that's how multiplayer games have always worked, you rely on your team or you die.

We can tell that the game is meant to be played this way because that is precisely how Ubisoft Intentionally programmed the bots to play it, they gang up on people, as is intended for 4v4.

sorry if this offends but its a game called for honor there's nothing honorable about taking on 1 person with 3 of your buddies.

I'll copy paste this one as well: it's called FOR Honor not WITH Honor, that means Honor is WHY we fight not HOW we fight, learn basic English, OK?

when they chase around the same low level newb killing him over and over. and actually lose the match just to kill that same guy. its pathetic really

You apparently don't realize that you just gave an example of a situation which removing revenge gear would not change the outcome of in any way... If they are chasing around an ungeared person, that means he has no revenge stats, so the removal of revenge stats wouldn't change his experience. Do you even read this **** back to yourself before you post it? This example has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Also, as I have said before, it's a team game, if your enemy is grouped up, YOU need to group up, that's how it works, adapt to their tactics or you deserve to die.

[Nina_Flowers]

No, we just want to end the match... If it's 4v1 you already lost, why do you want to be able to drag it out? Stop wasting everyone's time.
Like I told the other guy, and I will just copy paste this: It's not ganking, it's a 4v4, not 4 1v1s on the same map, the 1 is supposed to be at a severe disadvantage when outnumbered, that's how multiplayer games have always worked, you rely on your team or you die.

Your writing manners are disgusting.
And if you think a 1 vs 4 is not winnable ... you have a lot to learn.
But I agree that it is not ganking.
If the opponent has proved worth during the game I let him fight 1vs1 and calm down the rest of my team. (some times didnt work) xD
If sucked or is a rat child is insta ganked and emote-spammed.

[Divenity]

Your writing manners are disgusting.

Opinion, I see nothing which suggests that, brutal honesty is all I see and I don't consider that "disgusting".

And if you think a 1 vs 4 is not winnable ... you have a lot to learn.

When talking balance I always assume an equal and high skill level among all players involved, in that situation, it is unwinnable... Low skill levels are the only place where it is winnable, where you can spam zone attacks to victory because people don't know how to block.

[hayesjo33]

I don't think they should be removed but maybe toned down so that the other stats are useful too. They could also buff other stats. Imagine if max debuff resistance made it so your opponent only gets a guaranteed light instead of heavy after a gb or made you completely immune to fire/bleed. I'm not sure if it does this already but stamina regeneration should also affect how quickly your stamina starts regenerating after an attack.

I for one would still like a separate 4v4 mode without gear/feats all together as right now the current strategy in dominion is try to get outnumbered so you can get revenge and 2 shot everyone. As someone who bought the game for the pure fighting part but still likes team based modes, dominion gets really boring after a while when you can just get free kills with feats and instant revenge.