Why did you ninja nerf the Kensei and possibly the Orochi Ubisoft!? | Forums

[JackStreicher]

Orochi is if you play them well impossible to reach and harm, too mcuh mobility and no penalty while being extreme safe at whatever you do.
Kensei are awkwardly quick and they even "teleport-step" towards you even if you are standing out o range....


If anything Orochi needs a drastic speed reduction, staminacost increase and make him actually be punishable for being counter-parried etc. At the moment he can simply roll out of everything even stunns, falling off ledges, counters etc. this is BS.

[Xanthus730]

At the moment he can simply roll out of everything even stunns, falling off ledges, counters etc. this is BS.

100% false. Orochi is very punishable.
Especially compared to the other 2 assassins. Orochi is the slowest assassin, his light attacks are actually slower than some vanguards.
This is after having the absolute balls nerfed off of him after closed alpha/beta. (He used to be the fastest hero)

[M4rth1988]

Conqueror can still chain heavies into shield bash and shield bash into heavies.

side step, problem solved

[Xanthus730]

side step, problem solved

Can't sidestep if he knocks you into a wall. It's just pain-train till he runs out of stamina or you die.

[M4rth1988]

Can't sidestep if he knocks you into a wall. It's just pain-train till he runs out of stamina or you die.

it's not so hard to stay away from a wall if you try to avoid it, there are few maps which are pretty narrow, most of them provide enough space, and almost any class is faster then conq.

[llNightowll]

it's not so hard to stay away from a wall if you try to avoid it, there are few maps which are pretty narrow, most of them provide enough space, and almost any class is faster then conq.

But you cant do ANYTHING against Conqueror, if you avoid his shield bash and you try to hit him he can still do hes shield block to block your attack and after that hit you and keep doing his shield bash until he kill you.

Orochi INDEED needs a speed buff, you cant attack from other direction that cannot be from top because the other directions are useless and slow, the other "backstep attacks" are so hard to hit but its a little bit understandable. PLEASE help our Orochi, Ubisoft :/

[TheMalakith]

side step, problem solved

Depends on what class you play. I main a lawbringer and his dodge is so small that the auto aim continues to lock onto it.

[meppho]

Lots of tears (mostly misplaced. Kensei "all around good", rofl) but still nothing about these "ninja nerfs" except a mention of an animation canceled? What's the purpose of this thread except highlight the ignorance of a few people?

What are these nerfs supposed to be?

[nugget1k89]

Orochi is if you play them well impossible to reach and harm, too mcuh mobility and no penalty while being extreme safe at whatever you do.
Kensei are awkwardly quick and they even "teleport-step" towards you even if you are standing out o range....


If anything Orochi needs a drastic speed reduction, staminacost increase and make him actually be punishable for being counter-parried etc. At the moment he can simply roll out of everything even stunns, falling off ledges, counters etc. this is BS.

u probably dont play much he is differently punishable but u probably use a slow hero like raider or lb he doesnt stand a chance vs turtles or wardens pks faster heros

[JackStreicher]

Orochi INDEED needs a speed buff,

You are doing something wrong orochi are mostly uncounterable and unblockable because of their speed (if you have 30ms latency it's pretty much impossible to block them) so no they need a nmerf and by the way: they're one of the 3 most broken heroes right now, people just don't get that being super aggressive doesn't work, you are fast enough to punish every other class for trying t hit you.