Suggestion: Pick Heroes First, Then Matchmaking | Forums

[Fat Viking66]

The Problem: Too often in 4v4 I'm matched up against heroes with 10x my gear score. This is especially the case when I'm starting out a new hero.

The Solution: Do Hero Selection first, then matchmaking and use some combination of gear score and prestige level of the hero to make the match.

Simple solution to try to have more evenly balanced 4v4 games.

Just a thought.

--Fat Viking66

ps. Otherwise, I'm quite happy with the game. Tons of fun.

[Warp_11]

I thought about this as well but forgot to make a thread, this is actually a very good idea that has no downsides. It will improve 4v4 balance and make 2v2 brawls a bit better.

[Fat Viking66]

All the way around, I think it's a simple improvement that anticipates how many of us will likely play it: work a particularly hero until we're into higher gear score and then try another hero. Within a month or two, matchmaking as it stands could be very discouraging. And for people picking up the game later... Ouch.

[madara_mesh]

確かに私もそう思います。
しかし、何故この議論がされるのかを考えます。
それはやはりギヤスコア108又はヒロイック装備が強すぎるからではないでしょうか。
ただ、この強さを求めるのであれば、ギヤスコアでマッチメイキングすることは最善だと思います 。
それであれば強すぎるヒロイック装備が面白くないと感じる人々が故意にコモン装備やレア装備を装着して、マ ッチメイキングをするでしょう。

しかし、問題は勝率とギヤスコアの両方でマッチメイキングするのは対戦相手が少なくなり、何度も同じ相手に なる可能性が出てきます。また、マッチメイキングに時間がかかってしまう可能性も考えられます。私はマッチ メイキングは簡易化されるべきだと思っています。
私が一番良いと思うのは、ギヤスコア0とギヤスコア108の強さの差を小さくし、勝率でマッチメイキングが 行われることです。


Surely I think so too.
But I will consider why this discussion will be done.
It is probably because Gear Score 108 or Heroic Equipment is too strong.
However, if you are looking for this strength, I think it is best to matchmaking with gear scores.
If that is the case too, people who feel excessively strong heroic equipment is not interesting will deliberately wear common equipment and rare equipment and will make a matchmaking.

However, the problem is that matchmaking both winning percentage and gear scores has fewer opponents, and there is the possibility of being the same opponent many times. In addition, there is a possibility that it will take time for matchmaking. I think that matchmaking should be simplified.
What I think is best is to reduce the difference in strength between gears core 0 and gear core 108 and make matchmaking at winning percentage.

[MyNameIsSue]

Game is great, but I would like to see matchmaking account for gear rating in a manner similar to the OP as well.

[Fat Viking66]

Couldn't agree more. Well said!

[Starcanum]

You're forgetting that there is a downside of not being able to create a team comp. On a casual level it doesn't matter, but as you get deeper and higher it starts mattering a little more. Say for example you're planning to do a conqueror + 3 raiders skirmish. You queue up as a conqueror and end up in a team of 3 conquerors and 1 peacekeeper. I'd like to be matched with a similarly skilled players when I'm leveling up the characters I'm unfamiliar with, but I wouldn't take it at the expense of the team comps possibilities. So maybe we can think of something else here.

[Karma_Ghost]

You're forgetting that there is a downside of not being able to create a team comp. On a casual level it doesn't matter, but as you get deeper and higher it starts mattering a little more. Say for example you're planning to do a conqueror + 3 raiders skirmish. You queue up as a conqueror and end up in a team of 3 conquerors and 1 peacekeeper. I'd like to be matched with a similarly skilled players when I'm leveling up the characters I'm unfamiliar with, but I wouldn't take it at the expense of the team comps possibilities. So maybe we can think of something else here.

That doesn't make sense. If you're planning to play conqueror + 3 raiders then you queue as a group of conqueror + 3 raiders. Are you suggesting random people will play whatever class you tell them to just because?

[Starcanum]

That doesn't make sense. If you're planning to play conqueror + 3 raiders then you queue as a group of conqueror + 3 raiders. Are you suggesting random people will play whatever class you tell them to just because?

If the game forms a competitive meta then yes, this might become the case that people who head in the specific 4v4 modes will play some characters that are good in a team rather than those they prefer. Of course the majority of the players will have the solo queue mentality, but you can't really want the option for those that want to play as a team even with randoms.

[ondy1985]

If the game forms a competitive meta then yes, this might become the case that people who head in the specific 4v4 modes will play some characters that are good in a team rather than those they prefer. Of course the majority of the players will have the solo queue mentality, but you can't really want the option for those that want to play as a team even with randoms.

This doesn't make any sense for at least two reasons:

1) You don't see what your opponents are choosing, so you can not choose your team composition to counter that
2) You don't see what your opponents are choosing, so you can not choose your team composition to counter that

I know, technically it's just one reason, but I thought it's so important I had to mention it twice.