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I have a 108 GS character since several time now (rank 7, 8 very soon)And am guessing you have crap gear, wich makes you wine like a little baby.
But then when YOU have lvl 108 gear, then all of a sudden it will not be a problem anymore!?
I don't find it fun in the end. Really, it's more of an embarrassing system than anything else once arrived at that point.
Fundamentally, gameplay wise it brings absolutely nothing to the game, no depth, no real new mechanics or playstyle, like it would be for Chivalry when you get new weapons for example. Nothing of substance.
They could drop the system entirely or make it purely cosmetic, without hurting the game. I wouldn't mind at all if they'd get rid of it tomorrow, erasing all the gear that I gained and stats and golden numbers above my head to only keep our characters unique looks (character customisation screen is still bugged as hell by the way).
The system has no other true purpose than being a grind wheel in disguise, which ends to be more tedious than anything else with all that crap in inventory that you don't care about anymore (making it more a chore than a pleasure, and making me playing less), to keep players playing, because Ubi new strategy of fail (games as services .... lol, and they wonder why they fail on the PC market with that quality of service ...) and online gamedesign 101 for noob designers, unfortunately they don't know how to do it good (and you can even say that they're doing it wrong if you look at the recent event failure, that they had to extend because numbers weren't met on any platform).
I guess it will be somewhat fun watching them fail at ranked matches and esports.
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I hate the grind. I want to play the game for fun. Unfortunatly I don´t have fun when I have to fight people who get instant Rage and I have nothing. Hell even when I just use guard break so they don't block my attacks they get revenge super fast. All in all the Gear ads only frustration to the game.
It has been really fun in the beta where everyone was only P1-2. I hope they ad a no gear 4 vs 4 mode!
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I play most geared modes (Dominion, Deathmatch) and I don't see a problem with the gear. To me I see more and more people crying about someone else having more gear than them. What I don't understand is, you could have the same gear. You choose not to have it, or you haven't played enough to get it. Instead, what you do is rail against someone else having that gear by either earning it through playing time or buying it with their own money after playing the minimum to get to the gear level.
Why are you worried about what someone else is doing? Tend to your own biscuits. Don't like the dude in the lobby running revenge? Move on to a new lobby. Oh and before you start with the "every lobby is full of them" stuff, I'd like to remind you that I play this game too and almost every lobby I play in does NOT have someone running that gear.
oh and before you start with the "you're built for revenge" here is my gear.
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yeah the game was way more fun when ever one had no better than Rare gear.
personally i think Heroic gear should work the same way as normal and Rare, it should only raise one, lower one and leave one at default. the problem comes from the fact that Heroic give two sats a boost.
allowing for ridiculous revenge builds and also creating a massive power gap between Rare and Heroic.
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your logic is flawed, new players are not going to have high end gear, and are going to get smoked and now want to play when it's so unbalanced, also i have Heroic gear on two characters, but i use 4 and will want to play more later too, there are many reasons why someone might end up without heroic gear, it's not just a case of you could have if you wanted it. and i don't really enjoy the way the game plays with heroic gear. the revenge spam both from using it and other people using it, just takes away from the combat system.Originally Posted by xXl Plan B lXx Go to original postI play most geared modes (Dominion, Deathmatch) and I don't see a problem with the gear. To me I see more and more people crying about someone else having more gear than them. What I don't understand is, you could have the same gear. You choose not to have it, or you haven't played enough to get it. Instead, what you do is rail against someone else having that gear by either earning it through playing time or buying it with their own money after playing the minimum to get to the gear level.
Why are you worried about what someone else is doing? Tend to your own biscuits. Don't like the dude in the lobby running revenge? Move on to a new lobby. Oh and before you start with the "every lobby is full of them" stuff, I'd like to remind you that I play this game too and almost every lobby I play in does NOT have someone running that gear.
oh and before you start with the "you're built for revenge" here is my gear.
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Oh it's not even a question of Pay 2 win (even if it could be viewed as such).
As soon as you'll hit rank 3, you'll have your gear relatively quickly.
Keep the purple parts with the stats sets you want, no matter how they look, dismantle everything else, pump them to lvl 18 with gained silver and scraps, farm dominion AI mode if needed and Voilà, you have your 108 gear score. One or two cosmetic adjustments and that's it .... You can be 108 gearcore by literally AFKing, nothing of an accomplishement.
They could get rid of the system entirely, it's just a superficial and empty grind wheel (online games 101) and doesn't bring nothing of depth to the game, not even pride or bragging rights to have said GS.
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I love when people say your logic is flawed. Then they go on a rant about how new players won't have high end gear. They then follow that up with they're going to get smoked.
Please enlighten me on the game that new players come into the game with the same foothold as players who have been playing the game for [insert-time-period-here] longer than they have. Every day that a player isn't playing on a character or isn't playing the game as a whole they're falling farther and farther behind those who are. It's how online environments work. In fact, in the Call of Duty realms the folks who buy the game at Christmas time for their kiddos or themselves are often called "Christmas Noobs" because they're already 45 days behind those who bought the game at release.
See what's flawed is your logic that everyone should be on the same footing regardless of their commitment level to the game. I don't play as much as others do and others play less than I do. Using that basis, some will have better gear than I do and some will have worse gear than I do.
My friend plays with me. He plays less than I do. His gear score is 46. Mine is 93. Why the disparity? Time played. Its a simple concept that I think many including you just seem to be missing. It's an exponential curve and if you think for one minute that there is a method to balancing gear for players who have significant time played with those that don't, I'd love for you to explain to me how someone with a real grasp on the game going back and playing a brand new character against someone who just picked up the game for the very first time are on a level playing field.
Again with the pay to win drivel from someone who doesn't understand the mechanic of the game. YOU CANNOT PAY TO WIN. You can pay to get better. You have to play the game in order to actually be able to get good gear. At Reputation 1 your max pieces assembled gear score is 36. At Reputation 2 your max pieces assembled gear score is 72. Only after playing a character to Reputation 3 can you get the maximum gear score available. Therefore you have to play to "win" as you're classifying it. That means you cannot just dump money into a system and come out on top. False.Originally Posted by Vordred Go to original post
I'll not bother covering the hard cap on gear that means that after a while everyone is again .... level on the playing field.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Courage Go to original post
I agree that "gear" once you allready reached item lvl 108 is semi wortless, we aint getting much new or really exclusive stuff.
That being said, everything you distract can be used on other hero's off the same faction, wich is cool.
I will be able to use that regen to help me gear up my conqueror, for example ..
I disagree that ubisoft failed in this game, yes its a grind, but so is wow,league of legends, call of duty, battlefield etc, etc ..
For me, every single duel feels amazing, am always nervous when it starts, never knowing how good or bad my enemy is going to be.
I also disagree that revenge is worthless, I had many moments where my friends died and it was 1vs4, without revenge it would be pointless to even try.
I also had moments where all my enemies where item lvl 108, then it gets really intresting.
Besides, there is NO WAY that ubisoft can balance this game around 4vs4 dominion/skirmish, even with the best developers in the world.
The game is balanced around 1v1 and 2v2, even if gear is activated in ranked matches, it will still be balanced around the 2v2 and 1v1.
Sorry for the bad gramma.
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Originally Posted by DerHerbman Go to original post
WTF is wrong with ppl!!??
So you expect to have the same benefits then players that spend hours and hours and hours in the game?
Then what is the reward for players that spend all those hours? nothing i guess?
You want the same paycheck for doing nothing as the guy that works 40 hours a week?
The reward of all the grinding = gear, no grinding = no gear.
Thats how EVERY SINGLE GAME on the planet works, that is how life works, you need to invest, to get rewarded.
