Assassin Class Nerf Suggestions | Forums

[Aurockson]

People Disagreeing:
-Assassin Mains

People Agreeing:
-Just about everyone else

I main a PK but lets be blatantly honest here if you are holding a dagger.. and lets say you work out everyday so you're buff as hell. and you have LIGHT armor ofc (Light leather armor) and you swing it, is it really going to take you more than a second to recover?
If anything Berserker is the MOST powerful at the moment (I assume the OP mains berserker, not jabbing or anything... just guessing..)

[Kharneth88]

*Peacekeeper*
- Increase the recovery after the 2nd RB. This will make 2 hit comboes still viable, but prevent the nearly unblockable RB spam. Only do this so, while she won't be hit after the 2nd RB, she can't throw out a seemingly unblockable 3rd hit.
-Decrease the tracking on the lunging RT
-Decrease the attack speed of the initial slash of the AOE attack

It's clear you've never once played as the PK. Not even just to try out her moveset on a dummy bot.

She only has 2 light attacks in her combo. The 3rd attack is simply the 1st attack over again and there is already a delay and the attack is already slow.

Peacekeeper Chains:

Light, Light, Heavy
Light, Heavy
Heavy, Heavy

When PKs light attack spam, this is what happens:

15fps sword attack, 12fps dagger attack, brief pause, 15fps sword attack, 12fps dagger attack, brief pause, 15fps...

Do you see? What you want already exists, you just aren't good at utilizing it.

[Kharneth88]

I main a PK but lets be blatantly honest here if you are holding a dagger.. and lets say you work out everyday so you're buff as hell. and you have LIGHT armor ofc (Light leather armor) and you swing it, is it really going to take you more than a second to recover?
If anything Berserker is the MOST powerful at the moment (I assume the OP mains berserker, not jabbing or anything... just guessing..)

What you're saying is not actually very true, but there's not much reason to go into it with great detail because this is a fantasy game and is not meant to be realistic. It's not realistic, despite what some claim. The reason some people think it is realistic is because they are basing their medieval reality off TV shows, movies, and games. Daggers are terribly inefficient weapons and are primarily used for two reasons. They are either being used on a heavily armored enemy who is on the ground in order to jam it between their armored plates to kill them (or capture them alive) or, they are used as concealed weapons hidden under clothing so you can assassinate a person in a crowd without anyone knowing what happened until you've walked off.

Basically, there is no need to use realism to determine what should or should not happen in the world of video game balancing.

[Synsif]

It's clear you've never once played as the PK. Not even just to try out her moveset on a dummy bot.

She only has 2 light attacks in her combo. The 3rd attack is simply the 1st attack over again and there is already a delay and the attack is already slow.

Peacekeeper Chains:

Light, Light, Heavy
Light, Heavy
Heavy, Heavy

When PKs light attack spam, this is what happens:

15fps sword attack, 12fps dagger attack, brief pause, 15fps sword attack, 12fps dagger attack, brief pause, 15fps...

Do you see? What you want already exists, you just aren't good at utilizing it.

I do main Peacekeeper. I have her at Rep 3 and have over a 3.0 KDR with her. I'm fully aware of how the spam works and that the RB only truly comboes twice. I suggested the increased recovery so that it cannot be immediately started again without giving the opponent time to block. Please do not assume anything. It's doesn't help anyone or anything.

[killer_big_macz]

Personally I feel that there are two ways to play orochi. You can either play honorable and use your reflect and play a very counter attacked centered approach or you can play like a complete ****** and just dodge to the side and mash rb until you win.

[Pain-Seeker]

have any of you acutally seen a nobushis heavy attk after GB ? its too fast to block and deals almost 2x dmg of orochis heavy attk. Also neither of you ever got to high lvl of play i guess cuz assassins are least of my concern. As stated in other threads warden, warlord and conq are the real problem here

[Pain-Seeker]

Personally I feel that there are two ways to play orochi. You can either play honorable and use your reflect and play a very counter attacked centered approach or you can play like a complete ****** and just dodge to the side and mash rb until you win.

another one who gets owned by noobish orochis . Someone who gets rekted by heavy attks w/o feints have no right to complain about balancing

[killer_big_macz]

have any of you acutally seen a nobushis heavy attk after GB ? its too fast to block and deals almost 2x dmg of orochis heavy attk. Also neither of you ever got to high lvl of play i guess cuz assassins are least of my concern. As stated in other threads warden, warlord and conq are the real problem here

I know this may sound sarcastic but i am genuinely curious why you think the conq and warlord are unbalanced

[Kharneth88]

I do main Peacekeeper. I have her at Rep 3 and have over a 3.0 KDR with her. I'm fully aware of how the spam works and that the RB only truly comboes twice. I suggested the increased recovery so that it cannot be immediately started again without giving the opponent time to block. Please do not assume anything. It's doesn't help anyone or anything.

You're either lying or have found a way to fight noobs well into the 3.0 kdr because the spam doesn't work against competent players. I don't have a 3.0kdr but I'm matched against players who aren't scrubs and don't let the light spam kill them because it isn't hard to counter.

[Synsif]

You're either lying or have found a way to fight noobs well into the 3.0 kdr because the spam doesn't work against competent players. I don't have a 3.0kdr but I'm matched against players who aren't scrubs and don't let the light spam kill them because it isn't hard to counter.

2 things wrong with what you said. 1.) Matchmaking is random and does not scale with your skill or rank. 2.) Even with this being said, I am normally placed with people Rep 2-3 and above and I rarely see anyone lower. I don't spam the light attacks either. Once again, you are assuming things. I did not make this post because I personally think assassin's are broken, I made it because so many people are complaining and I want it to stop. These are suggestions, not what I think will happen or what I want to happen.