So honest and decent players are yet again the ones being punished... | Forums

[neogeo___]

I'm mostly in this game for dueling

Haven't the time to put in and keep up with the bandwagon in terms of gear stats, so team based game modes are pretty much not a option for me. Plus I enjoy playing multiple chars and I'm not about to grind gear for a single one of them so I can actually be competitive against the 108 legendary gear sets

For the last 2/3 days I can only lose duels. The ones I'm winning or about to win always have ppl leaving, these players used to be replaced by a bot (which I always thought was dumb and should be counted as a forfeit and straight win for the player that stays) but now the game just crashes and I get an error message.

It's basically pointless to play, if you win you actually don't, you're just losing your time. If you lose and don't rage quit you're probably awarding a win to someone that is rage quitting when they lose, which is absolutely unfair.

This should have been sorted out before release, but really needs to be fixed asap. Stats translate to nothing, what you can learn from someone with high K/D and W/L ratios is that he is pretty much a cancer of the community and contributes to the constant crashes via rage quitting to stat padding.
Remove stats all together, make them just count for the upcoming ranked mode and make this constant rage quitting stop.

The only ones getting frustrated and put off from playing the games are the one's like myself that never rage quit. But I honestly might as well start doing what over 90% of players in duel seem to be doing. It's a cancer indeed, problem is it spreads and although I don't care for stats I can honestly say that I resent the fact players with better stats than me got them dishonestly for the biggest part of them. I specially resent the fact that when I lose I'm probably granting the win to someone that is actively denying it to others every time he gets beat.

At the moment game is not fun. Played 10 duels today so far, 9 crashes from desync when opponent rage quitted and a single win from another decent player than isn't intoxicating the lobby.

Why even bother? seriously

[Sirrkas]

Gear stats rarely matter. The whole enemy team had blue gear and mine had a max of about 20, they still got stomped in domination. I also was able, to fight two of them at the same time. The game is even with gear more about skill than equipment, all their equip gives them also disadvantages.

Yes, that about bot replacement sounds like an issue. But I rarely encountered people leaving duels against me. Regardless if they were about to lose or win.

[Earl_Lemongrab]

Gear stats rarely matter. The whole enemy team had blue gear and mine had a max of about 20, they still got stomped in domination. I also was able, to fight two of them at the same time. The game is even with gear more about skill than equipment, all their equip gives them also disadvantages.

Yes, that about bot replacement sounds like an issue. But I rarely encountered people leaving duels against me. Regardless if they were about to lose or win.

"Gear stats rarely matter". We had a (6) Nobushi in the Enemy team and she was able to 1 hit 4 of our players with ONE SINGLE area attack!

[dayLockey]

That's definitely something that confuses me, people's infatuation with their "stats" in For Honor. I know for a fact that no one from any game I came from cares about how stats are calculated right now. You get credit for killing AI BOTS and you salvage your precious W/L% and KDA by simply leaving the game before it ends.

TBH when I see or hear people talk about win% or KD in any gametype I can almost immediately identify them as either an exploiter or a BOT farmer. STATS DO NOT MATTER.

I agree with you on games where someone leaves should award the person who stayed an automatic win. I've never understood the BOT replacement or the fact that this game is utterly devoid of any kind of leaver penalty at all.

[neogeo___]

Gear stats rarely matter. The whole enemy team had blue gear and mine had a max of about 20, they still got stomped in domination. I also was able, to fight two of them at the same time. The game is even with gear more about skill than equipment, all their equip gives them also disadvantages.

Yes, that about bot replacement sounds like an issue. But I rarely encountered people leaving duels against me. Regardless if they were about to lose or win.

Let's not be naive, of course they do matter. Specially if they're a high damage and revenge gain gear set. You need less hits in to kill, you get considerable damage even if you're attacks are blocked, you spend less stamina and are able to keep attacking, you regain stamina quicker etc. It will matter considerably. Sure team play may allow you to win, but the fact that you're at a disadvantage, a considerable one, does not change.

Anyway, I don't play duels because I don't have the gear for team based modes, I play them because I enjoy them the most, the fights are more skilled and intense. The balancing issues and strict meta do get in the way, but other than that I enjoy duels the most.
But being constantly denied wins when affording that courtesy to others is really starting to get to me. Example was an earlier match I started losing 0-2 today, opponent always being cordial and saying "good fight" at the end of each round. I managed to turn it around and get the draw in. The last round was going in my favor, had almost all my HP, opponent at critical, he leaves, crashes the game. So much for being a good sport.

Now I'm in here instead of playing because I'm genuinely frustrated of being denied 9 wins, mostly the XP and steel, but also the wins because I know I've been a good sport with my loses with ppl that don't show the same common courtesy to others.

This is what kills games and makes the community toxic beyond belief imho

[neogeo___]

That's definitely something that confuses me, people's infatuation with their "stats" in For Honor. I know for a fact that no one from any game I came from cares about how stats are calculated right now. You get credit for killing AI BOTS and you salvage your precious W/L% and KDA by simply leaving the game before it ends.

TBH when I see or hear people talk about win% or KD in any gametype I can almost immediately identify them as either an exploiter or a BOT farmer. STATS DO NOT MATTER.

I agree with you on games where someone leaves should award the person who stayed an automatic win. I've never understood the BOT replacement or the fact that this game is utterly devoid of any kind of leaver penalty at all.

I honestly don't care about my stats. But I do resent ppl denying me steel and XP when they lose against me, and this has been happening constantly the last couple of days. The bot used to appear whenever ppl rage quitted, sure I had 1 or 2 loses from having so little HP left I couldn't kill the bot. But having the game crash and being denied my winnings is seriously broken and putting me off from playing the game.

Think something changed since the game was down with all those NAT errors from a couple of days ago, and now if someone leaves a duel they crash the game and the player staying is the one being punished. It's like granting a free trolling move to a community that showed massive rage quitting issues in all the tests this game had before release. How dumb can one actually be to not have a safeguard against this sort of behavior?

For me the solution would be simple, group these players in a lobby of their own and let them rage quit together and keep them from intoxicating the games of fair decent and honest players

[Brave_Thunder]

I also play pretty much only duels(if you don't want ganks,go 1v1 they said),and while I see a good amount of rage quitters,the only thing that they do is make me happy for the round that I played.Rarely the game crashed for disconnects,it happens way more in 4v4 in my experience.

Stats...they will matter.When ranked will come,everyone will have his bragging rights upon those under his level,while receiving the same from those above him.Sadly people seem to care for them even now.I hope in some tweaks for duels(and I hope for an arena with less ledges,but it's unlikely) before it gets implemented,because make no mistakes:salt is coming.

[neogeo___]

I also play pretty much only duels(if you don't want ganks,go 1v1 they said),and while I see a good amount of rage quitters,the only thing that they do is make me happy for the round that I played.Rarely the game crashed for disconnects,it happens way more in 4v4 in my experience.

Stats...they will matter.When ranked will come,everyone will have his bragging rights upon those under his level,while receiving the same from those above him.Sadly people seem to care for them even now.I hope in some tweaks for duels(and I hope for an arena with less ledges,but it's unlikely) before it gets implemented,because make no mistakes:salt is coming.

It doesn't crash at random, nor has it been laggy. It crashes while trying to resync after the player I'm facing left and had lost already (he was either falling to his death or had so few HP he gave up and rage quitted)

2 days ago a bot would of taken his place. But yesterday and specially today since I was able to play a bit more, the crashes are all that happens in duels for me when the opponent leaves, haven't seen a single bot replace a player in this time frame I mentioned

[Brave_Thunder]

It doesn't crash at random, nor has it been laggy. It crashes while trying to resync after the player I'm facing left and had lost already (he was either falling to his death or had so few HP he gave up and rage quitted)

2 days ago a bot would of taken his place. But yesterday and specially today since I was able to play a bit more, the crashes are all that happens in duels for me when the opponent leaves, haven't seen a single bot replace a player in this time frame I mentioned

Strange every time it happens to me a bot starts to fight instantly...there is some code of error or the game just sends you back to the main menu?

[DrExtrem]

"Gear stats rarely matter". We had a (6) Nobushi in the Enemy team and she was able to 1 hit 4 of our players with ONE SINGLE area attack!

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