Peacekeeper didn't need buffing | Forums

[Aarpian]

I just explained my experience and thoughts on a Forum, which is, oh wait, a platform to EXACTLY do this Mister Uberpro. Yes, PK is Top Tier, but not nearly as OP as the others here insist.

If I look at that tournament yesterday, you played Conq, so where is your realistic view on him as a Pro Player? He is Top Tier, too. Should he be nerfed because his Shield / Shoulder Bash is too good?

Yes, I am not a Pro Player. Yes, you would beat me to hell. Still, I think this Thread here is NOT a competitive discussion but a rant over "OP this, OP that". I just wanted to point out that other characters are at least on the same "OPness" level as the Peacekeeper if played properly (and boring).

My complaint was not that you were giving your opinion, but trying to back it up by saying "good players think this" when it's ********. You also say anyone who disagrees with you needs to git gud. Well guess what? I am gud, as you admit, and I'm saying you're talking out of your ***.

PK is incredibly safe with very effective aggression, and it requires serious outplaying to beat her unless you happen to be a warlord.
Did you know you can respond to almost any enemy action with a zone attack? It will beat out guard breaks, it will beat out dodges, it will beat out feints. PKs can't even be punished when spamming dodge because the recovery frames on her dodge are so tiny that you have to guard break before you even register her dodge. No other character has that, and it makes her absolutely impossible to chase down when combined with the range of her backdash.

If you're losing to Wardens and Conquerors, you are getting outplayed (which doesn't surprise me because based on your posts you don't utilise the strong parts of her kit and just do dumb unsafe stuff)

[Charmzzz]

My complaint was not that you were giving your opinion, but trying to back it up by saying "good players think this" when it's ********. You also say anyone who disagrees with you needs to git gud. Well guess what? I am gud, as you admit, and I'm saying you're talking out of your ***.

PK is incredibly safe with very effective aggression, and it requires serious outplaying to beat her unless you happen to be a warlord.
Did you know you can respond to almost any enemy action with a zone attack? It will beat out guard breaks, it will beat out dodges, it will beat out feints. PKs can't even be punished when spamming dodge because the recovery frames on her dodge are so tiny that you have to guard break before you even register her dodge. No other character has that, and it makes her absolutely impossible to chase down when combined with the range of her backdash.

If you're losing to Wardens and Conquerors, you are getting outplayed (which doesn't surprise me because based on your posts you don't utilise the strong parts of her kit and just do dumb unsafe stuff)

The last part is true, I am not an Alpha / Beta Player and still learn all the moves... For the rest of your post - reported for language and personal insults. Ignored from now on because I don't like to "discuss" with people who trashtalk so much.

[Aarpian]

The last part is true, I am not an Alpha / Beta Player and still learn all the moves... For the rest of your post - reported for language and personal insults. Ignored from now on because I don't like to "discuss" with people who trashtalk so much.

Which set of asterisks offended you the most, sweet child?

[Finalsalute93]

Everyone stopped reading at "I main PK"

I have 6 character at rep 1, almost 7 now, and NONE and rep 2.

I don't main anything and PK is clearly broken from the perspective of all of them. STFU PK maining cockroaches. Of course you don't ave a problem with what you ABUSE. Christ. Are you guys really presenting you opinions are things anyone should take seriously on this matter? No way. Too many PKs clearly are idiots who have no concept of anything except feeling entitled to thinking they are 'leet' just because everyone isn't an auto blocker hack. Because you have to be twice as good as any PK to beat them really.

As for the typical PK brain dead "get god response," do you seriously not have a single brain cell?

When you factor in guard change times and lag you can easily have 1 or 2 frames to react to a PK zone attack before it is too late and 5 or 6 frames for a light attack. No one should be expected to have that reaction time reliably. Furthermore, the basic idea is fckd beyond belief regardless of frame rate.

PKs get to spam broken crap almost mindlessly and the other player needs the BEST blocking skills the game can possibly demand and Spiderman reflexes in milliseconds just to block? Makes zero sense and the absolute essence of broken and stupid.

Grow some freaking balls and play a character that isn't broken that come back and talk.

Wow why so salty throwing insults about the place now lawl,

Can someone get some extra salt for this guys cornflakes please....

[Aurockson]

I wasn't talking about the guard break bleed. That is a legitimate bug which is fine. She didn't need longer range on her attacks.

But when you successfully parry an attack you get no reward for it....
That's why they're changing it....

[Kharneth88]

But when you successfully parry an attack you get no reward for it....
That's why they're changing it....

Hopefully the increased range of her light attacks will only happen after a parry and not all the time. She doesn't need an increase in range all the time. Honestly, I've never had a problem with punishing people after a parry and, frankly, the drop in their stamina is good enough for me.

[Peligrad]

Have a look here:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...nce-Discussion

and here:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ll-explanation

Especially the first one is pretty much what my experience is right now. A good Warden, Warlord and Conquerer beats my PK with ease, cannot connect alot of my "lightning fast" lights because they either do the turtle or, in case of the warden, he uses his range to connect a top light first and then goes for the bash-combo-vortex...

You really need to "git gud" if you think that PK is a problem right now.

LMAO.

Claims conqs are top tier and then posts a link to a tier list where conq is listed as second tier and a second link that isn't even a tier list.

Well done...

[Kharneth88]

LMAO.

Claims conqs are top tier and then posts a link to a tier list where conq is listed as second tier and a second link that isn't even a tier list.

Well done...

He never claimed Conquerors, or any class, was top tier. He simply said that those classes beat HIS PK with ease. Learn to read, my friend. He literally said nothing about tiers, except for this link.

[TheRevanchist27]

I've killed countless amount of PK's at 108 gear level, prestiges up to 11 and this is very much a fact it is almost impossible to parry it as you have about 9 frames when a raider's stance swap is 8 frames, leaving you with 1 FRAME for reaction, this is definitely a joke. you can only hope to predict the most unpredicted attack in the game reaction-wise or get hit for something you cannot parry almost ever.

Raider vs PK, the battle would end if you just spam it since he cannot actually react to it ever because it is a 1 frame of reaction if you guard top/left as the raider. and if that is the case raider cannot let go of right-side guard against any PK period because 4 frames are bigger reaction time than 1. LOL, might as well wish for a miracle!

The human eye cannot clearly perceive anything less than 30 frames. So complaining about the difference of 3-frames between Warden and Peacekeeper is asinine.

Your eye literally cannot detect the difference between 9-frames and 12-frames. So quit complaining you ignorant SOB.

[Aarpian]

The human eye cannot clearly perceive anything less than 30 frames. So complaining about the difference of 3-frames between Warden and Peacekeeper is asinine.

Your eye literally cannot detect the difference between 9-frames and 12-frames. So quit complaining you ignorant SOB.

What the hell are you talking about?

The human eye doesn't view things in frames. 3 frames could be 20 seconds or it could be 0.1s, it depends entirely on the frame rate.
Even if we assume for the moment that you've just worded this poorly, it still doesn't matter, because the complaint isn't that you can't see the indicator, it's that the amount of time you have to react to the indicator is too small.