Major balancing issues in For Honor. People do not fight honorably. | Forums

[SiewcaRaka]

Makes me lol how much zergers defend their tactics and then give their philosophical impression on the nature of honor. Too bad I'd never find more than half of you in duels.

Cause they are boring? I do them when i got quests and guess what. I NEVER gank in those rest? You can play with your silly "code" it is always fun to write "want duel go play duel" to crying losers

[The_Mensan]

People are forgetting... THIS IS WAR !!!

Do you complain about real life falling off edges? Do you complain about real life getting ganged up in fights? YES YOU DO. But life doesn't change, snow flake. Just adapt.

It's not a dueling game (we had duel mode for that), it's a WAR GAME.

[Gray360UK]

The game is not about honour, more about the absence of it.
The title is for, not with.
Mechanics, story, tutorials, bot behaviour, environments, modes ... many of them are designed with a lack of honour in mind.
Play how you like, your choice, but it does not say 'Honour Required' on the box.

[Tazimuss]

I have no problem blocking, parrying, or deflecting an Orochi's attacks MaxMikester. I can understand that you do, and you think that makes them OP, but the reality is that you suck.

[OokiireteHoshii]

I could give some little tips:
-When you walk by a cliff expect that the other player may grab you, ready your finger on your GB key. Srsly there's nothing easier then counter GB.(although i don't get why throwing you off a cliff is dishonorable)
-If you feel that other people gang bang you in 4v4 and play very scummy just go 1v1. It's the best mode and since the core of this game is dueling why in the love of **** do you play a mode that has NO CHANCE for a fair duel? It's like eating a piece of **** and be mad about it's taste...

[GewaltSam]

To "For Honor", the title of the game: I always thought there was another way of reading it, like: There's no real goal in the war the factions are fighting. They don't fight for peace, for riches or for some ideology; so, it could be said that all the killing and horror is, best case, "For Honor", and not to accomplish something with "worth".

[solho]

Because so many people cry for assassins? are the only class balanced, u only need to do parry they dont have now op class are heavys the have so many combos & full guard.

[Jobsalot]

Lol honor. The most misconstrued, most misinterpreted buzzword concept being used as an excuse in this game and on this forum.

Fight with honor all you want. Lose with honor all you want. In the end it is just a word people use to justify their inability to be a good fighter in For Honor.

It is not inhonorable to use your surroundings in a fight. If you repeatedly get thrown off ledges, your perception of the surroundings and your positioning sucks. If you repeatedly get guard break spammed, your sense for distance and reaction time sucks. If you repeatedly get hitten by attacks, your dodging and defense sucks. The list is literally endless and very very few actual imbalancing problems aside, it is usually a matter of skill and the further your advance in this game, the more punishing becomes even the slightest oversight. That is what sets the differene between a good fighter and a bad fighter. Heck, I've even gotten complains from people to not fight properly for repeating the absolutely minuscule move set of the Conqueror again and again. They probably expected me to just stand there and get slaughtered. For their "honor". Lol.

You want to know what is actually without honor? Cheaters. Rage quitters who abuse networking connection failures to ruin the game for others. People like that. Not folks who just use what is in the game. If they are able to exploit perfectly indended mechanics and they ALWAYS work on YOU, YOU need to get GOOD. Not the other guy needs to dumb down his ability to fight you.

This is not real life and people who immerse themselves to the point where they cannot differentiate anymore that this is just a game and has certain mechanics that are there to be used (like 2 vs 2 or dominion and death matches always also set you up for ganking and multiple vs one fights) need to get a grip on life. You aren't defending any m'ladies in their castle towers from abominable dragons or ****. Get the hell out of here with that nonsense.

If you buy in the overly romanticized tales of grandeur and honor on the battlefield you need to study history more. The knight code existed as an ideal to life by but reality always supersedes the ideal fantasy. Wars were brutal. If warriors met on the battlefield it meant killing or be killed, not who died as the greater man. If you wanna die with honor, please do so but maybe think about not shoving down your world views down other people's throats while you are on your way over a cliff just because it is in the name of a computer game.

[Mad-Tommo]

It is not UNFAIR. It is perfectly fair. What is unfair is you calling them "dishonourable" as they did what on every god damn battlefield would be thought as "fair". Good players do not have problem with "balance" of any class, they see pros and cons of every single one. Good ones also know how to position themselves so they would be safe from ledge/spikes throw but are also good with CGB and predicting GB(punish by attack). Good players also know that anything beyond 1v1 is TEAM game. You need your team to win efficiently. That means ganking, reviving etc. Good players also know that it is possible for them to be ganked and so they have learned how to fight 1v2/3(4 is almost impossible). So yea, git gud mate. Cause you are whining about game mechanics. If in Tetris you would always miss T shaped block would you make petition to remove it from the game?

Damn this statement needs to be a STICKY! Spot on! Tommo
Bloody Hell & this!

Lol honor. The most misconstrued, most misinterpreted buzzword concept being used as an excuse in this game and on this forum.

Fight with honor all you want. Lose with honor all you want. In the end it is just a word people use to justify their inability to be a good fighter in For Honor.

It is not inhonorable to use your surroundings in a fight. If you repeatedly get thrown off ledges, your perception of the surroundings and your positioning sucks. If you repeatedly get guard break spammed, your sense for distance and reaction time sucks. If you repeatedly get hitten by attacks, your dodging and defense sucks. The list is literally endless and very very few actual imbalancing problems aside, it is usually a matter of skill and the further your advance in this game, the more punishing becomes even the slightest oversight. That is what sets the differene between a good fighter and a bad fighter. Heck, I've even gotten complains from people to not fight properly for repeating the absolutely minuscule move set of the Conqueror again and again. They probably expected me to just stand there and get slaughtered. For their "honor". Lol.

You want to know what is actually without honor? Cheaters. Rage quitters who abuse networking connection failures to ruin the game for others. People like that. Not folks who just use what is in the game. If they are able to exploit perfectly indended mechanics and they ALWAYS work on YOU, YOU need to get GOOD. Not the other guy needs to dumb down his ability to fight you.

This is not real life and people who immerse themselves to the point where they cannot differentiate anymore that this is just a game and has certain mechanics that are there to be used (like 2 vs 2 or dominion and death matches always also set you up for ganking and multiple vs one fights) need to get a grip on life. You aren't defending any m'ladies in their castle towers from abominable dragons or ****. Get the hell out of here with that nonsense.

If you buy in the overly romanticized tales of grandeur and honor on the battlefield you need to study history more. The knight code existed as an ideal to life by but reality always supersedes the ideal fantasy. Wars were brutal. If warriors met on the battlefield it meant killing or be killed, not who died as the greater man. If you wanna die with honor, please do so but maybe think about not shoving down your world views down other people's throats while you are on your way over a cliff just because it is in the name of a computer game.

Guys you need to get together and do a sticky for all the whiners out there who are the ones that are actually ruining the game!
I tried to get that damned sticky about Honor Code taken off! It just misleads people who dont read it fully! Or understand War & what its actually like there is NO Honor in War its about Survival, Period nothing else,very simple!
The game is called 'For Honor' NOT 'With Honor' totally different meanings Tommo

[FlyghterDRS]

A bunch of whiny kids commenting, how surprising.

Like you say assassins MIGHt be OP but thats not the real issue, its that attacking into an assassin is a auto-lose. Thats poor design that needs to change.

I totally agree whit you i think the side dodge attack should be removed they need to use this skills more often :
Peacekeeper- Deflect by dodging in the direction of an incoming attack just before impact. Deflect can be followed-up by Riposting Stab
Orochi : Deflect - Deflect by dodging in the direction of an incoming attack just before impact. Deflect can be followed-up by Wind Gust or Hurricane Blast.
Berserker: Deflect - Dodge in the direction of an incoming Attack just before impact to Deflect it. A Deflect automatically Guardbreaks an attacking opponent.