[Matchmaking] I do not enjoy this game anymore in PvP | Forums

[Tyler-Durdin]

I get everyone wanting to be the best Pvp player in the universe BUT if you want to compete in Pvp you must have the gear.
For me , I don't want to play Pvp at all its a waste of time, being the greatest Pvp hero you get no praise for it,you get no pay for it and the majority of the time you end frustrated.
Just play Vs Ai.
Care not what others say about playing Vs Ai.
You may just find grinding there more calming.

[Siera.]

Matchmaking

The Matchmaking is not bad. The Problem is that it expand Skill after 30s and you have no chance to say you want only Matches with same Skill (because waiting time is about 4-10 minutes).

But what mean SKILL? Its not your Prestige Level, not your fancy Gear, its probably a hidden MMR System.
But i fight against Gear 108 Guys with Gear 10? Matchmaking system works BEFOR you choose your champion... feelsBadMan, but they have NO chance to change it in this Mode.

More infos about Matchmaking:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...hlight=network

Pay 2 Win

For Honor is NOT Pay 2 Win, its Easy to Learn, Hard to Master. Its a skill based game. This game is 2 weeks old, so the most people that have 108 Gear, dident buy it. They played for it. I have 66h gametime and have ~90 Gearscore, i can push it to 108, if i want. But its not needed. Gearscore 30-40 is good enough.

Yeah Gear 0 vs 108 is unfair. The gear stats need to rebalanced (Revenge), but why not play vs. AI? Go Prestige 1, buy 500 Steel Premiumboxes (with your earned Steel, no need to Buy) and have a nice 40-50 Gear?
Because its easyer to Blame...

Learn to Parry, Grab Counter (yeah patch needed) and you will win often. Yeah not 100%... but sorry guys, there are a lot better player than you (and me). If you lose, learn from it, make it next time better and dont blame others for your fault.

Gear

Gear is only in Skirmish, Dominion and Elimination activ. When you have a low level Gear play 1v1, 2v2.

If you need stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0

Small test:



Thx hf guys

[Hackfraysn]

Matchmaking

The Matchmaking is not bad.

Yeah, you're right. Pages upon pages of threads on /forhonorreddit and this forum complaining about horribly unfair matchmaking are full of lying people. Steam reviews criticizing matchmaking and p2p are also blatant lies. You're right. Everybody else is wrong. My bad.

[Siera.]

Yeah, you're right. Pages upon pages of threads on /forhonorreddit and this forum complaining about horribly unfair matchmaking are full of lying people. Steam reviews criticizing matchmaking and p2p are also blatant lies. You're right. Everybody else is wrong. My bad.

I not said its good, its just not bad. People like to blame... so thats normal on forums. When you blame, then do it better or make suggestions...

[Snowdog2000]

I can understand how the OP feels. The matchmaking is pretty much non-existent. For me though I don't mind too much if I play against better players in the long run if I can watch and learn.
What has quickly soured my attitude in this game however, are the masses of low-skilled, higher level people who play solely as samurai, button mashing their way to victory in a flurry of swords strokes that are impossible to block or parry. All they know is attack, attack and attack, making no attempt to pull off any other moves. If they keep on playing the game this way it will just become one dimensional. It's a shame as the games concept is so good. Maybe in a minority here but I wish to some extent they had given us more Knights and Vikings instead of adding the Samurai. Win or lose, some of the fights I been involved in with these two classes have been so enjoyable.
I'm sure there will remain a solid fan base playing the game but, as with the Division I do fear that the mentality of 'cheap' players will put so many potential new players off.

[Siera.]

There are also pages full of people that refunded the game. According to that amount no one should be playing the game anymore.
Pages of people that think gb is not counterable and pages of people that never find a game.
Also pages on how every class is overpowered and pages on how ledges should be removed and that the game is dying or already dead.

That's because when you actually have fun playing the game you have less reason to complain. Also it's a lot less common to say what is good and on what the devs did a good job.

Thanks, 100% True. And yes: GOOD JOB DEVS! Can´t wait to see new content/fixes/patch.

[Hackfraysn]

I not said its good, its just not bad. People like to blame... so thats normal on forums. When you blame, then do it better or make suggestions...

There are plenty of suggestions already. Match only people with +/- 19 levels against each other. Match only players with equal gear against each other. Don't match players with no gear against geared players. Disable gear until you fixed the matchmaking.

There are also pages full of people that refunded the game. According to that amount no one should be playing the game anymore.
Pages of people that think gb is not counterable and pages of people that never find a game.
Also pages on how every class is overpowered and pages on how ledges should be removed and that the game is dying or already dead.

That's because when you actually have fun playing the game you have less reason to complain. Also it's a lot less common to say what is good and on what the devs did a good job.

Nice strawman. Compare the quantity of refund threads vs matchmaking complaints. You'll notice a difference, unless you're the ostrich from the cartoons with his head stuck up in sand.

I can understand how the OP feels. The matchmaking is pretty much non-existent. For me though I don't mind too much if I play against better players in the long run if I can watch and learn.
What has quickly soured my attitude in this game however, are the masses of low-skilled, higher level people who play solely as samurai, button mashing their way to victory in a flurry of swords strokes that are impossible to block or parry. All they know is attack, attack and attack, making no attempt to pull off any other moves. If they keep on playing the game this way it will just become one dimensional. It's a shame as the games concept is so good. Maybe in a minority here but I wish to some extent they had given us more Knights and Vikings instead of adding the Samurai. Win or lose, some of the fights I been involved in with these two classes have been so enjoyable.
I'm sure there will remain a solid fan base playing the game but, as with the Division I do fear that the mentality of 'cheap' players will put so many potential new players off.

This is espacially painful when you're playing something with a slow guardswitch speed, such as Raider, or Lawbringer. Peacekeepers and Orochis can literally light attack spam you to death, if you don't manage to parry. This is an issue but connectivity and a balanced matchmaking system should be top priority before even considering to balance the characters.

Thanks, 100% True. And yes: GOOD JOB DEVS! Can´t wait to see new content.

Well, Siera. I sincerely hope the devs are preparing a massive patch for us players where they fix everything. The bad connectivity, the horrible matchmaking and the promised changes to guardbreak, Valkyrie etc. Sadly, I don't think this is going to happen. I'd be pretty amazed if it did, though.

The game is overall pretty good. It just needs some love and support from Ubisoft.

[Siera.]

There are plenty of suggestions already. Match only people with +/- 19 levels against each other. Match only players with equal gear against each other. Don't match players with no gear against geared players.

Yeah they would do it... Again: You pick your champion AFTER Matchmaking works... Implement a Mode where you pick your Champion first, and then Que would work (Like Heroes of the Storm casual Mode). But now its NOT possible. I would love if they implement such a mode with fair Matchmaking.

Disable gear until you fixed the matchmaking.

Then the People with gear starting crying in the Forums... that will not be better.

The game is overall pretty good. It just needs some love and support from Ubisoft.

Yeah then wait, until they patched. Was the same on Rainbow six Siege, now its a great Game. But that is not just a single step, that was 1 Year of Development and we are in Week 3.

[Hackfraysn]

Yeah they would do it... Again: You pick your champion AFTER Matchmaking works... Implement a Mode where you pick your Champion first, and then Que would work (Like Heroes of the Storm casual Mode). But now its NOT possible. I would love if they implement such a mode with fair Matchmaking.

And why is this impossible to implement, again? Source? Why didn't they implement it already?

Then the People with gear starting crying in the Forums... that will not be better.

If you communicate why this is necessary and compensate all players with free champion status or something, I'm sure most of them would understand. it's temporary anyway. Way better than making all new players quit in droves.

Yeah then wait, until they patched. Was the same on Rainbow six Siege, now its a great Game. But that is not just a single step, that was 1 Year of Development and we are in Week 3.

If you release a game, either release a finished product, or delay the release date. The current practise is just crippling Ubisoft's reputation and sales, let alone the game.
If you think this business practise is acceptable, you're a part of the problem.

[Siera.]

And why is this impossible to implement, again? Source? Why didn't they implement it already?

Are you a programmer? If you are, then you know thats its not so simple as it sounds. After N-Years on Development its not that easy change things like Network Code... and there is not only network, you need to add UI, menu mechanics, change Matchmaking paramenters....

Game Development on this Level is not easy.

If you communicate why this is necessary and compensate all players with free champion status or something, I'm sure most of them would understand. it's temporary anyway. Way better than making all new players quit in droves.

Yeah i agree with you. More communication would help alot! I hope they change their strategy and involve players more into dev process. I had no problem with removing gear stats at all. Gearstats is not needed at all.

If you release a game, either release a finished product, or delay the release date. The current practise is just crippling Ubisoft's reputation and sales, let alone the game.
If you think this business practise is acceptable, you're a part of the problem.

Release a Game sounds simple... or delay the release date. There are so many problems and parameters in this process, its hard to do a good release.
But yes the practise of Ubisoft is not good at all. But all of you bought the game, although you knew it was a ubsioft product.