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[k3rr3k]

http://imgur.com/a/axRwO

How the **** is this even a thing? It is a guaranteed loss when hitting the opponent gives them revenge in 2 attacks and they 1 shot you with a heavy after you've been knocked down by the revenge activation. This isn't even half of the matches I have had to suffer through.

[k3rr3k]

You have a Reputation 1 character with a 19 gear rating (average of LESS THAN 3.2) and you're complaining about gear-level disadvantages? Your problem may be IQ-level disadvantages; ya think?

You should quit whining in the forum and learn how to play the game; upgrade your chit stupid! Do you understand that revenge is charged when blocking hits also? You say he got it after two hits, but if those two hits followed four blocks, then you left out MOST of the story.

And at high-levels, you break honor, you get revenged! Consider that during your battles; it's an intended game mechanic to counter death-balling. Everything is a trade-off, if you ever do obtain appropriate gear, you will see what is needed, and what is sacrificed, to have such a "revenge build" on a character, assuming that your complaint hasn't been severely exaggerated in the first place...

Good Luck!

Thanks for being ignorant and providing nothing with your post. Higher level gear only unlocks as you get high reputation. It is impossible to get gear level 100+ at rep 1. The problem is the match making. Do you see a pattern in the screenshots or do I need to spell it out for you like a child?

[DEOVONTAY]

You have a Reputation 1 character with a 19 gear rating (average of LESS THAN 3.2) and you're complaining about gear-level disadvantages? Your problem may be IQ-level disadvantages; ya think?

You should quit whining in the forum and learn how to play the game; upgrade your chit stupid! Do you understand that revenge is charged when blocking hits also? You say he got it after two hits, but if those two hits followed four blocks, then you left out MOST of the story.

And at high-levels, you break honor, you get revenged! Consider that during your battles; it's an intended game mechanic to counter death-balling. Everything is a trade-off, if you ever do obtain appropriate gear, you will see what is needed, and what is sacrificed, to have such a "revenge build" on a character, assuming that your complaint hasn't been severely exaggerated in the first place...

Good Luck!

I'm sorry but you either don't play at a high level or you're just ignorant.

Full revenge gear easily triggers revenge even in a 1v1 and it so dramatically outclasses all other stats that no other strategy has a place. The only counter is to have your own 108 Revenge Stack fight the enemy 108 Revenge stack.

The issue is that, as you so conveniently overlooked, higher level gear gives more stats than it takes away. Therefore a player with better gear has MORE stats not just DIFFERENT stats. My fully revenge stacked conq has no real drawbacks besides taking extra bleed damage. Several of the stats also just don't function properly, my stamina cost reduction bar is as low as it can possibly go but my attacks don't actually cost extra stamina.

tl;dr
Gear is a hilarious advantage and you're just fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Matchmaking NEEDS to take gear into account for this game to survive more than a month.

[LeonaPT]

You have a Reputation 1 character with a 19 gear rating (average of LESS THAN 3.2) and you're complaining about gear-level disadvantages? Your problem may be IQ-level disadvantages; ya think?

You should quit whining in the forum and learn how to play the game; upgrade your chit stupid! Do you understand that revenge is charged when blocking hits also? You say he got it after two hits, but if those two hits followed four blocks, then you left out MOST of the story.

And at high-levels, you break honor, you get revenged! Consider that during your battles; it's an intended game mechanic to counter death-balling. Everything is a trade-off, if you ever do obtain appropriate gear, you will see what is needed, and what is sacrificed, to have such a "revenge build" on a character, assuming that your complaint hasn't been severely exaggerated in the first place...

Good Luck!

You tried making him look stupid for whatever reason, now you're the one that looks stupid.

Did you even take a look at the screenshots anyway?

[Alfeis]

just that, sometimes its even 2v4 with the prestige and stuff.. its amazing, how about a "re shuffle" after all ppl are rdy.?

[Mr_Gallows]

Fraktika, even though it's obvious the idea does not pop into existence in your mind you actually presented yourself like an arse in this thread with no substance at all to back it up. Just stop it, the days of respecting forum ninjas is long past. The OPs point is valid. His own gear has no influence on triggering revenge. Revenge gear is broken and second, there should be no revenge in duels at all.

Simple.

[Aarpian]

The pattern is perfectly clear, but you seem to have missed the point and are the one "acting" like I child with your insults; I say that parenthetically in case you are actually one.

There was a UBI-Confirmed Rep 30 Orochi Tuesday 2/28 and the point isthat ANYONE whining about the effort it takes to get to Rep 3 and have access to MAX level gear is a filthy casual asking for the game to be changed because they are entitled ****s IMO. Can't you understand that two or three months from now even the couple-hour-a-week players will have purple gear and new players will have to gear up versus AI or face purples no matter what the matchmaking algorithm? Playing Multiplayer versus AI has the SAME XP so I don't see the problem. You really think UBI should devote efforts from the needs that serve thousands of faithful players to address the cries of those too lazy to level-up in the many ways they currently provide without entering stat-enabled PvP modes?

Just stop asking for unneeded changes and declaring things broken because you are either too ignorant or too shortsighted to understand what the game will be if left alone and you simply played the damn game.

Good Luck!

Re-rem made it his mission to be the first Rep 30 player in the world. Literally all he did for the past 2 weeks was no-life the game and get a couple of hours of sleep a night. Holding him up as some sort of example of what the average player can do is ridiculous.

[Mr_Gallows]

Revenge gear is broken, you are wrong frantica, and it should just be fixed. Currently dominion is just noob mode because of the revenge. I know you just don't get it, but it sucks,

I do have purple gear on three characters and I have build for pure revenge, because it is simply too easy.

[PrimaGoosa]

http://imgur.com/a/axRwO

How the **** is this even a thing? It is a guaranteed loss when hitting the opponent gives them revenge in 2 attacks and they 1 shot you with a heavy after you've been knocked down by the revenge activation. This isn't even half of the matches I have had to suffer through.

That match-up looks pretty fair, actually. Sure, the Bot is a disadvantage, but that might have been an 80+ GS player who left/hasn't quite joined. In that case, the 19 GS guy and the 38 GS guy are fairly close, all things considered.

And sure, revenge throws things off, but people also don't seem to know how to fight someone who has revenge. Certain classes can exploit revenge more heavily than others, but if you have multiple people against someone with Revenge, and the Revenge person gets aggressive, it's up to the person who is being attacked to defend themselves, and it's up to the person who isn't being attacked to apply pressure and bust down the shield to start doing damage.

So yeah, gear is a thing. They should probably adjust stat distributions on gear, or the impact of certain stats. But honestly, with gear and feats, 4v4 is just a fun little ****-show anyway. If you want to really measure yourself against an opponent, you'll either do 1v1, 2v2, or have a 4v4 team that scrims in custom matches against other 4v4 teams with gear/feats disabled. I queue for Dominion when I just want to tool around in a more dynamic world than a straight-up 1v1 match.

So what if you are mid-attack when your teammate hits an opponent, they get revenge, and they use it immediately to knock you down then follow you up with 3 bars of damage from a heavy. Does it make you less a player that you died once to a thing in the game? No. Does it make the other person some grandmaster player? No. It's one kill/death among hundreds/thousands in a one-off pub game.

[Gnostic.]

Love how people think playing a game lots is hard work.