Why does Orochi have Highing Heavy Attack then Kensie | Forums

[agentxyz2]

Not exactly complaining it just baffles me that The Orochi with his higher speed plus etc, and has a higher heavy attack damage then Kensie?

Any good reasoning for this?

[RIP-Kristos]

The Katana is a lighter and thinner sword, providing handling speed and better penetration, while the Odachi is longer, heavier and thicker resulting in slower attacks with less penetration but in exchange providing better range for keeping enemies at bay. I don't know what's baffling you..

[MangoUnclaimed]

The Katana is a lighter and thinner sword, proving handling speed and better penetration, while the Odachi is longer, heavier and thicker resulting in slower attacks with less penetration but in terms proving better range for keeping enemies at range. I don't know what's baffling you..

I think the baffling part is the fact that the Orochi lands his heavy attack considerably faster than the Kensei, and can in fact land a free overhead heavy off a GB while the Kensei cannot. In short, the damage vs speed tradeoff that should be the core of balancing this game just isn't there, at all. Realism does not trump game design.

[UbiNoty]

Moving this thread over into combat/strategy for further discussion!

[Felis_Menari]

The kensei's side heavies (unblockable aside) actually do more damage than his verts, if I remember correctly.

[Dekallis]

This is actually a valid point. The 'correct' style for the Odachi focuses on downward strokes, not sides. The nagamaki is a blade of similar length that is designed for horizontal cuts with a almost 50/50 proportion of hilt/blade it's about the size of a nodachi but serves a very different purpose. Technically the Kensei SHOULD be using a lot of quick overhead attacks from top stance if he were using his weapon correctly.

[Sephriem]

I would have though that the odachi standard method is taken from using helm splitter, orochis top heavy is at max only after guard break (maxes around 37dmg with gear score) I can't justify kensei however all of his head pokes do some serious damage whether helm splitter or 2nd chain head poke. The fact the the double side step is powerful is probably just down to the ease of its success rate, I think the damage is still pretty low.

[Imp-C-Bravo]

Also, Kensei has the highest damaging light attacks in the game. Just for the record.....

[RIP-Kristos]

This is actually a valid point. The 'correct' style for the Odachi focuses on downward strokes, not sides. The nagamaki is a blade of similar length that is designed for horizontal cuts with a almost 50/50 proportion of hilt/blade it's about the size of a nodachi but serves a very different purpose. Technically the Kensei SHOULD be using a lot of quick overhead attacks from top stance if he were using his weapon correctly.

Correct. The light overhead attacks for the Kensei are reasonably fast though.

[RIP-Kristos]

I think the baffling part is the fact that the Orochi lands his heavy attack considerably faster than the Kensei, and can in fact land a free overhead heavy off a GB while the Kensei cannot. In short, the damage vs speed tradeoff that should be the core of balancing this game just isn't there, at all. Realism does not trump game design.

I don't see it that way.. I could complain about why the Kensei has a faster and further GB then the Orochi.. but I'm not. Because I understand that each class does something better than the other and vice-versa. It's about using the class to its situational advantage, rather than providing each class with a 50-50 win chance.