Lets talk (civilized) about "honor". | Forums

[rabidrabbit133]

I don't mind when I have face a 2v1 as that's my enemies choice to fight that way, it just annoys me in Elimination or Brawl when I've been fighting someone 1v1 for a little while and asshat team mate coming leaping in flinging attacks wildly to steal the kill - usually hitting me as much as the opponent. If you insist on getting involve be useful and go for GB instead and just mashing attacks to pad you stats.

Skirmish and Dominion are a complete free for all though so never have any complaints there.

This 100%. I absolutely hate that after I've gotten a berzerker or something down to as little health as I have and some ******bag comes out of nowhere and kills him just as I'm getting ready to finish him off. Single combat mother****ers, if I need help I'm already dead.

[SiewcaRaka]

I will say what I always say.

You can play however you wanna play. Its your game, you can play it any way you feel like playing.


BUT


That doesn't mean you cannot be criticized for playing the way you play. People are free to point out that you play a certain way and are entitled to look down upon you or turn their noses up at it.



Its up to you whether or not you care.

Look down upon? Only if your corpse will be higher than me. Corpses don't look down upon anyone, they got no opinion nor do they voice their complains. Your teammate got killed in a second by me. You couldn't kill my teammate in that time. You couldn't kill two of us(with revenge as it is two opponents is quite easy). Your skill is low, and we look down upon you, cause you died . I do everything I can to win? So are you, by trying to belittle tactic that is troubling you. I put my sword in your back, you are saying we are cowards. Same thing. Difference is...we won. We used everything we could to destroy you. Was that necessary? Maybe not. But I don't underestimate my opponent and I shall see him as my equal. That's why I will use everything

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Look down upon? Only if your corpse will be higher than me. Corpses don't look down upon anyone, they got no opinion nor do they voice their complains. Your teammate got killed in a second by me. You couldn't kill my teammate in that time. You couldn't kill two of us(with revenge as it is two opponents is quite easy). Your skill is low, and we look down upon you, cause you died . I do everything I can to win? So are you, by trying to belittle tactic that is troubling you. I put my sword in your back, you are saying we are cowards. Same thing. Difference is...we won. We used everything we could to destroy you. Was that necessary? Maybe not. But I don't underestimate my opponent and I shall see him as my equal. That's why I will use everything

Thanks for proving my point again lol

[Sephriem]

I've heard from PC gamer friends that there is some serious verbal abuse from the in game chats on other players .

I'd say I'm pretty honorable to the fact my console friends always shine when I don't jump in lol. I get ganged up on all the time so I just try my best and accept my fate. Since I'm a 1vs1 classes dom and deathmatches are pretty tough, revenge mode is a god send and a curse, which stays true to the word and co sequence of the word really.

I do find it funny though because people very quickly either moan cause someone noobs in causes the player revenge and the player just wipes the original, but also they complain when theirs multiples against themselves. And yet will still attack another players character of say they've done an execution. Lol. Still I love being in fights, where its me and my friends one enemy left, and we send just one guy in bow, start up he wins or loses and it just continues like that or vice versa (very rare) but still. There's a lot of respect in players both sides for that. *all the warm fuzzies*

[D_Snake25]

If I may add my 2cents to this

I fully admit to be a "****s" using enviromental kills to beat someone, if you make a dumb move, give me an opening, of course I'll use it, it's part of the combat, risk reward, if your risk is too great and you fail it's my reward
so i push ppl in spikes, fire, off ledges etc, I won't complain once if someone does it to me

furthermore when it comes to gamemodes like dominion ganking is an important part of the gamemode, dominion is knowing when to rotate from point 1 to 2, when to 2v1, when to back off the help somewhere else
if a team runs around as a group of 4, take 2 flags, they can't be at all 3
BUT considering dominion the gear score totally breaks the game, i have 2 tier 1 heroes so my overall tier is 2. i get matched with tier 6-9 90% of the time, all with gear score of over 100
and to ppl saying ohhh mimimi tier doesn't mean anything. yes it does, same as lvs do in games like bf. Your lv shows your time invested, in FH case the time invested in the hero that you are facing, so if you have tier 1 wich is lets just say 4h of gametime vs someone with tier 9 wich would be just by lv 9 times that, not including the reduced exp gain from being a higher level it is save to assume he will dominate you
yet my point is more towards gear score, when i play with friends and we see a single dude with 100GS we quit, because there is no fair fighting ground, i usually play raider or lawbringer and i have been 2hitted by zoneattacks from nubushis, 2 hitted by zephyr strikes from orochis etc etc
it is patheticly broken and destroyes every chance you have of winning simply because you have no sensual damage compared to your opponent
now talking about the "honor" part of the game
i can understand what Thunder was talking on about, if you play like a **** (in his opinion) he will do the same to you, that is in all ways fair and just, you are playing like you want, and he will as he wants, there is no erason to belittle or insult him for saying that
iin gamemodes like dominion and skirmish (even tho i hate skirmish with all my heart^^) ganking, 2v1,3v1 really isn't an issue at all, especially since oyu can respawn
going to elimination tho, it can be to some degree, the game puts 8 players on a map. 4 locations of 1v1's, main point being it puts you in a 1v1 situation! Now what do about 90% of ppl do now, they run.. Most ppl in elimination play orochi, nubushi or Peace anyway, fastes classes in the game
I for myself haven't had one game where there was no assassin on the other team, furthermore not a single game in wich not at least 2 ppl from the enemy team run away from their 1v1 to try to gank someone, or to grab 4 buffs and come back, because they know there is no way the enemy will catch them, simply because of their class
I hate playing elimination, i think it has a lot of bad design flaws, ganking in general is not the issue, it's a team based game, but starting a match to someone that runs away is just boring and honestly just makes you question why even bother fighting at all, since if you win they run, waiting for someone to 2v1 you.
Next part is that the winning team unlocks their feats, which are simply overpowered, overpowered isn't even enough to discribe how broken some feats are, I'm pretty sure at least 10 ppl in this thread have been put up against an orochi in elimination, and dies withint the fisrt 2 sec of the match because he decided to throw a shuriken and shoot the bow, that's the whole game for you, gg wp
or the lv 4 feats that have 0 cast time, 0 downside, onehit every class no matter health or armor and are impossible to get out of in most cases

Anyhow yes if you don't like it, don't play elimination, fair enough right? but then why are 80% of all orders elimination? ppl have no choice but to play it

going back to the honor part, I have givin my 2 cents about enviromentals, about dominion and deathmatch
now going to 2v2's
the way i see it 2v2 is duelling with a friend against 2 other ppl, mostly friends as well. when i brawl, if i win my fight, no matter how if by "honorable kill" or enviromental i will not inc the duell of my friend, he wants to improve and so does his opponent, the gamemode is litterally about duelling so i stand by and watch, if my enemy kills my friend i will let him execute, since he won the fight and now has to face me since i was the survivor of the firsts match basically
that is how i play and may others prefer to play, it is about fighting and improving not winning.
Now on the other hand you always have ppl that'll just 2v1 as soon as they win their fight, fair enough, it is after all 2v2, for me i dislike it, i will ask if it's really necessary. but if ppl want to play the gamemode that way then i will join in on it as well, and 2v1 whenever i get the chance.
The problem is the community of this game alltogether, because everyone is so far up there own *** that they always think of themselves as right, always superior and frankly as soon as something does not go their way, they get super triggered. I play raider as i think i have mentioned, wich is arguably one of the most underperforming classes simply by their mechanic, but that's not the point, i constantly get death threats, hate spam, insults etc for just killing them, especially those ppl that fight "dishonorable" in the first game, e.g. my friend looses his fight, the 2nd enemy incs me in my duell
no matter if i win or loose i will do the same next round, after doing so they explode in hate and trash talk!?

This game has serious balancing issues no doubt about it, but our playerbase is the worst part of the game. PPl forget this is a GAME, it's not life or death, hell there isn't even ranked yet for crying out loud!
you are trying to have fun, but so is your opponent, instead of trying to purposely making your opponent miserable, remember that your fun depends on him being there as weill, neither would have fun without the other, so stop being a ****!
if someone calls out no honor, don't straight up insult him, tell him either you wouldn't mind playing a bit mroe honorable or just saying, look it's part of the game and how i want to play, if oyu don't like it either leave or accept it
and to the NO HONOR catcallers, instead of just calling out no honor, why not just ask "hey, could we try some fights without ......" "i want to improve on that and you prob could help me with it"

but no, everyone simply refers to die of cancer, i ****ed your mom last night etc etc etc

ytho, y so toxic

Anyhow, I've been rambling on for way too long, I'm sure some ppl will aggree, disaggree and smoeone will hate me, since we are on the interwebs
Night you guys,

D-Snake

[SiewcaRaka]

Thanks for proving my point again lol

Proved? The only thing you have proved is that you are unskilled and that you like losing

[Hogmin]

so this turned non civilised very quickly lol.

End of the day, everyone is free to play the game how they want, and anyone else be damned should you try and force your way on them.

[SiewcaRaka]

so this turned non civilised very quickly lol.

End of the day, everyone is free to play the game how they want, and anyone else be damned should you try and force your way on them.

I'll drink to that

[Brave_Thunder]

Look down upon? Only if your corpse will be higher than me. Corpses don't look down upon anyone, they got no opinion nor do they voice their complains. Your teammate got killed in a second by me. You couldn't kill my teammate in that time. You couldn't kill two of us(with revenge as it is two opponents is quite easy). Your skill is low, and we look down upon you, cause you died . I do everything I can to win? So are you, by trying to belittle tactic that is troubling you. I put my sword in your back, you are saying we are cowards. Same thing. Difference is...we won. We used everything we could to destroy you. Was that necessary? Maybe not. But I don't underestimate my opponent and I shall see him as my equal. That's why I will use everything

Actually,if you 2v1 someone,you are considering him superior to you,since you are using numbers instead of skill to beat him.Considering your opponent your equal means to fight him fairly,not stab him in the back.That's why I backstab those that interrupt my duels:you lack respect to me,because you think that I'm gonna lose the fight,and yourself,because you're afraid to die in a 1v1.

[LaughingGuy]

Actually,if you 2v1 someone,you are considering him superior to you,since you are using numbers instead of skill to beat him.Considering your opponent your equal means to fight him fairly,not stab him in the back.That's why I backstab those that interrupt my duels:you lack respect to me,because you think that I'm gonna lose the fight,and yourself,because you're afraid to die in a 1v1.

that's called trying to win the game and get more xp