Lets talk (civilized) about "honor". | Forums

[Rhamez]

Nice fail on the whole line man.First,I said that no one can dictate how to play the game.Nor I,not you.Yet you say "Go play Vs ai if you don't want to cheap your way to victory".

Second: 1v1 is what I play 99% of the time.But quests are mostly in 4v4 modes,so I'm speaking for the few games that I've done out of 1v1.

Third:after tryng pk and orochi I found my main in kensei.Howewer,in those dm matches I use pk,since speed It what matters against cheesers.But I miss something...from when maining an assassin is shameful?Hipocrisy at his finest.

Go on pretending that ganking is the right thing to do,your w/r may suffer if you ever dare to fight fair.

Nice fail on the whole line man.First,I said that no one can dictate how to play the game.Nor I,not you.Yet you say "Go play Vs ai if you don't want to cheap your way to victory".

Just because you aren't capable of overcoming something doesn't mean its cheap.

Second: 1v1 is what I play 99% of the time.But quests are mostly in 4v4 modes,so I'm speaking for the few games that I've done out of 1v1.

So those very few non 1v1s you play tilt you so much that you cannot stomach finishing them without complaining about honor?

Third:after tryng pk and orochi I found my main in kensei.Howewer,in those dm matches I use pk,since speed It what matters against cheesers.But I miss something...from when maining an assassin is shameful?Hipocrisy at his finest.

Playing an assassin isn't shameful, but they are the notorious ones for running away and complaining about honor. Do you know what hypocrisy* is?

Go on pretending that ganking is the right thing to do,your w/r may suffer if you ever dare to fight fair.

There is no "right" way to play this game, which is exactly what I am trying to convey. Play the game the way the match develops. You even say that we can't dictate the gameplay of others. So why are you here in this thread if you already know the answer to this whole debate? And last but not least there it is folks. The infamous "1v1 me, you know you would lose thats why you gank!" that every single game has in one form or another.

[Brave_Thunder]

Do people really think that there should be some form of code of conduct on the gameplay mechanics that dictate how people purchased the game should play? I wonder how many historic battles ever went down when the people on the field said "Nah leave him, he's fighting 1v1" or just actually went up and stabbed them in the back to help their mate.

This whole topic is like the DZ PvE/PvP arguments and salty complaints on The Division. Ganking happens....In every PvP (more than 1v1) game....ever.

Real life has no respawn or rez tho.

[inthegamewayne]

There is no "right" way to play this game, which is exactly what I am trying to convey. Play the game the way the match develops. You even say that we can't dictate the gameplay of others. So why are you here in this thread if you already know the answer to this whole debate? And last but not least there it is folks. The infamous "1v1 me, you know you would lose thats why you gank!" that every single game has in one form or another.

I agree with this, it is salt everywhere. I understand that it's frustrating but I don't understand the complaint about it. This isn't like the balancing issues or anything, it's just players upset for losing.

[inthegamewayne]

Real life has no respawn or rez tho.

Exactly, this is just a game. Purchased by people that will play how they want. Adapt & overcome, or turn in your sword and shield and play something else (not you specifically, just players in general).

[m1y4gi]

It comes down to this, always, in any MP online game. Always.

exactly.

[Brave_Thunder]

Just because you aren't capable of overcoming something doesn't mean its cheap.



So those very few non 1v1s you play tilt you so much that you cannot stomach finishing them without complaining about honor?



Playing an assassin isn't shameful, but they are the notorious ones for running away and complaining about honor. Do you know what hypocrisy* is?



There is no "right" way to play this game, which is exactly what I am trying to convey. Play the game the way the match develops. You even say that we can't dictate the gameplay of others. So why are you here in this thread if you already know the answer to this whole debate? And last but not least there it is folks. The infamous "1v1 me, you know you would lose thats why you gank!" that every single game has in one form or another.

1)What is cheap or not is a subjective matter.

2)Tilt?No,it's just sad to see people lacking confidence in their skill,they prefer tactics over fights.

3)You can't judge people on what class they play.Sure some assassins run away from even their shadow,but like I said I use them to outrun the gankers,not to run from duels.

4)I can ask you the same question.We are here to express opinions.In the end,what matters is our enjoyment of the game.I enjoy duels,I'll not engage in any xv1 situation because I don't want to give at someone that I deem dishonorable an easy win.Just like you become my enemy if you interrupt my duel.I play the game for my enjoyment,without dictating anything:free to break my code,I'll just act accordingly,ranked or normal.

[Flello]

Why is this even a thing? Why are there even discussions about it? Just because the title is called 'For Honor'... it's just the same as a player using a pistol in Call of Duty, or only gunning down a player when there are no other players in the vicinity. It's just plain stupid.

I will do whatever the game allows me to do in all modes. Like many people have said before, if you want honour, then go play 1v1.

[Stanislav2233]

This "HONOR" idea will ruin the game.

GIVE THOSE WHO LOVE "HONOR DUELS" TOURNAMENT MODE SO THEY DON'T FEEL LONELY IN 1x1 MODE AND STOP RUINING THE GAME!!

1. If you want a duel -> go 1x1 mode.
2. Brawl and Elimination modes are named like that FOR REASON. These are team modes where the smartest and сunning win! These are not duels! If there will be only duels in all modes it will be BORING and people leave! Gameplay must be different to stay interesting for a long time!
3. If you say you have nothing to loose you are WRONG!
People LOVE when their team WINS! And being a BAD team member makes your team LOOSE and makes your teammates UNHAPPY.
4. Many people complain that DEFENSIVE gameplay is too strong! Devs gave you perfect solution for that!
What team usually wins? The one that stays together and go for objectives!

When you play 2x2 your goal is NOT to play defensive duels. but beat your opponent FAST and finish the rest opp 2vs1. Or they will do this against YOU! It's made to play offensive!

When you play 4x4 you goal is to play AS A TEAM! Beat your opponents fast to capture points (offensive gameplay)! Do NOT run after running off opponents - capture points! Stay alive and capture points! Play as a TEAM and OUTSMART your opponents!

5. Think about playing shooters, basketball, WoW Arena 2x2 or battleground or any other team game AS HONORABLE DUELS. That's ridiculous!

[Rhamez]

1)What is cheap or not is a subjective matter.

2)Tilt?No,it's just sad to see people lacking confidence in their skill,they prefer tactics over fights.

3)You can't judge people on what class they play.Sure some assassins run away from even their shadow,but like I said I use them to outrun the gankers,not to run from duels.

4)I can ask you the same question.We are here to express opinions.In the end,what matters is our enjoyment of the game.I enjoy duels,I'll not engage in any xv1 situation because I don't want to give at someone that I deem dishonorable an easy win.Just like you become my enemy if you interrupt my duel.I play the game for my enjoyment,without dictating anything:free to break my code,I'll just act accordingly,ranked or normal.

What is cheap or not is a subjective matter.

At this point what else is there to say? Believe what you want I guess.

Tilt?No,it's just sad to see people lacking confidence in their skill,they prefer tactics over fights.

We're edging that realm of whining more and more. There is no correlation between lacking confidence and not wanting to sit there and waste time 1v1ing as the dominion points stack up or someone is running around ressing their team. If we want to go down that route, I would say the lack of confidence directly relates to the amount of people complaining about others interrupting their 1v1s. Why aren't you confident enough to take on a 1v2 or have the situational awareness to know when to retreat or regroup? You even get an OP ability called revenge to aid in this. And for preferring tactics over fights... What? Is that seriously your argument? That people who go for the "tactical" (if you want to call it that) game mode over the 1v1 fights want a tactical approach to the game rather than dueling?

You can't judge people on what class they play.Sure some assassins run away from even their shadow,but like I said I use them to outrun the gankers,not to run from duels.

I am not judging your class, I am judging your complaints on honor. It coincidentally just so happens that you also play the class that a majority of pro-honor players play because they excel at doing what their name entails, picking off players 1v1 and/or escaping. Perhaps there is a relation here?

I can ask you the same question.We are here to express opinions.In the end,what matters is our enjoyment of the game.I enjoy duels,I'll not engage in any xv1 situation because I don't want to give at someone that I deem dishonorable an easy win.Just like you become my enemy if you interrupt my duel.I play the game for my enjoyment,without dictating anything:free to break my code,I'll just act accordingly,ranked or normal.

So basically your opinion is you want to play with honor, but you state that you know you can't dictate the gameplay of others. That's great. Debate over. But you add that if it doesn't go YOUR way, then YOU will be the one to be as much of a **** as possible. That IS attempting to dictate others behavior, and most importantly and ironically, this is what hypocrisy is.

[Dude_of_Valor]

For me as long as you don't cheat then anything goes. This is true for all game formats.

Now if I play 2v2 then I will wait if I happen to win my duel and see how my opponent fights.

However should I be ganged up on (which is perfectly fine) then I will use the same tactic.

When it comes to 4v4 then you press home your advantage, especially in Dominion. It is no different to playing COD etc.