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  1. #11
    ThePollie's Avatar Senior Member
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    To be fair, I saw you making a number of low-level mistakes, yourself. Especially against the other Lawbringer, just letting him chain you to death with the unblockable.
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by alucard_413 Go to original post
    Thanks for all the tips, can you tell me more about the shove ? I know what its like a pushing glowing yellow, but what is the purpose to do it ?

    I can say i have great fun into the game, but i must admit guard break is very hard for the moment, maybe after the patch it will be more easy. The only fight i have 0 fun at all, is vs an orochi and i would say a peacekeeper, they are fast, and they all the time do the same thing, evade, hit me, guard break, hit me. Its just i feel very slow against them, i realy think i have very low chance to win, because of this, the only one i beat is very bad one, or if i use cliff to throw them.
    In essence our shove is our bread and butter and opens up at the moment a trio of combo's.

    The first being Shove-> Light attack in any direction and then any combo that can follow a light attack.

    The second is Shove->guard break which catches a lot of people off guard because not many Lawbrings know you can do that and its very easy free damage. Note we only get guarnteed top heavy if we throw them into a wall with guard break or if they are out of stam and fall down.

    The Third is Shove->Longarm of the law which is our stab and flip over our shoulders move. Then we get a free light attack. They will recover in time for a side heavy as with any long arm of the law attempt and they do have enough time after the shove to recover enough to dodge the longarm.

    Now note that after any Heavy attack we can go straight into shove which can go infinetly assuming we do not get superior blocked, parried, or run out of stamina but they will have a chance to dodge the shove.

    As for the shove itself know that it can be activated on three occasions and once your start activation you can immediatly let go for the short shove which opens up the combo's above, or the hold for the heavy shove which gives you about just as much room as the Conq's charged shield bash or the Wardens charged shoulder rush.

    1: Being right after a heavy attack that does not get superior blocked/Parried. This one is avoidable
    2: Right after a dodge in any direction, Also avoidable
    3: Right after blocking any blockable attack. This means the moment they hit your guard you hit guard break and you start your shove. This in most cases is unavoidable and will be if you superior block them. Some classes namely the beserker I've found can still land one light hit before being shoved and occasionaly the Orochi and Beserker can just barely sidestep it if you are a few frames too slow.

    Please note that the shove DOES NOT affect Shugoki if he has his passive hyper armor active at the time. In fact I try not to shove the demon sumo at all and instead focus on parries and side stepping his demon's embrace.

    Its best if you change up what follow up to a shove you use if your opponent is reading your goto call (Mine is guard break since it drains even more stamina)
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    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    To be fair, I saw you making a number of low-level mistakes, yourself. Especially against the other Lawbringer, just letting him chain you to death with the unblockable.
    Yes i will training more, thanks.

    Originally Posted by Cyriccube Go to original post
    In essence our shove is our bread and butter and opens up at the moment a trio of combo's.

    The first being Shove-> Light attack in any direction and then any combo that can follow a light attack.

    The second is Shove->guard break which catches a lot of people off guard because not many Lawbrings know you can do that and its very easy free damage. Note we only get guarnteed top heavy if we throw them into a wall with guard break or if they are out of stam and fall down.

    The Third is Shove->Longarm of the law which is our stab and flip over our shoulders move. Then we get a free light attack. They will recover in time for a side heavy as with any long arm of the law attempt and they do have enough time after the shove to recover enough to dodge the longarm.

    Now note that after any Heavy attack we can go straight into shove which can go infinetly assuming we do not get superior blocked, parried, or run out of stamina but they will have a chance to dodge the shove.

    As for the shove itself know that it can be activated on three occasions and once your start activation you can immediatly let go for the short shove which opens up the combo's above, or the hold for the heavy shove which gives you about just as much room as the Conq's charged shield bash or the Wardens charged shoulder rush.

    1: Being right after a heavy attack that does not get superior blocked/Parried. This one is avoidable
    2: Right after a dodge in any direction, Also avoidable
    3: Right after blocking any blockable attack. This means the moment they hit your guard you hit guard break and you start your shove. This in most cases is unavoidable and will be if you superior block them. Some classes namely the beserker I've found can still land one light hit before being shoved and occasionaly the Orochi and Beserker can just barely sidestep it if you are a few frames too slow.

    Please note that the shove DOES NOT affect Shugoki if he has his passive hyper armor active at the time. In fact I try not to shove the demon sumo at all and instead focus on parries and side stepping his demon's embrace.

    Its best if you change up what follow up to a shove you use if your opponent is reading your goto call (Mine is guard break since it drains even more stamina)
    Thanks for all the information, i will training a bit vs a bot for see.
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    Don't do shove+guardbreak. It isn't a legit thing and only works if they mess up the timing, which better players will see coming a mile away and tech it.
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