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[Drazard_TCR]

Is it possible to use the wardens top light counter attack against an opponents top unblockable? it never seems to connect for me.
I have no trouble parrying with a normal heavy but the light attack seems more difficult? is it just a timing thing that i am messing up?

I have noticed it seems a lot harder to use the counter attack than just parrying everything normally.

[Rump_Buffalo]

I dont think so. I think it technically counts as a deflect? (not sure on that) and deflects cannot negate unblockables afaik. THAT BEING SAID, I could be entirely wrong and invite someone to correct me.

[mogzy825]

Is it possible to use the wardens top light counter attack against an opponents top unblockable? it never seems to connect for me.
I have no trouble parrying with a normal heavy but the light attack seems more difficult? is it just a timing thing that i am messing up?

I have noticed it seems a lot harder to use the counter attack than just parrying everything normally.

Not against an unblockable, but I know what you mean about the parry. I've only managed to land it a couple of times but from what I've gathered the light attack is meant to be pressed quite a bit before the attack actually connects. Take Orochi for example, I have managed to do it to one as he did his dash light top but the timing on it was bizarre and I thought he was going for a grab break so I pressed top light as the attack reached just over his head as he was swinging down on me, there was like half a second maybe before he connected yet it worked

[bzdueler]

yes.. I also unable to do crushing counterstrike on kensei's unblockable..
but how about light attack?

[Dez_troi_aR]

I can only contribute my personal experience here :

I am capable of parrying the kensei unblockable. The only time it connects is, when i try to crushing-counter it.
So i am pretty sure that it just isnt possible.

On the other hand, i am not very good... i cant reliably crushing counter anything.
I dont want to go off topic, but: Is the window for crushing counter the same as for parry ? I often get hit by top attacks i try to counter but i can parry much better.

Guess i just need practice

[Drazard_TCR]

I can only contribute my personal experience here :

I am capable of parrying the kensei unblockable. The only time it connects is, when i try to crushing-counter it.
So i am pretty sure that it just isnt possible.

On the other hand, i am not very good... i cant reliably crushing counter anything.
I dont want to go off topic, but: Is the window for crushing counter the same as for parry ? I often get hit by top attacks i try to counter but i can parry much better.

Guess i just need practice

not off topic at all, i have asked the same thing. Im almost certain the crushing counter windows is smaller than a parry. but i cannot confirm it.
Can anyone here confirm this?

[Bananas1000]

I've tested it with a friend. I can't parry it with a crushing counterstrike. I can't parry it with the Warlord/Valk light parry either. I haven't tried the Assassins' deflect yet but I doubt it'll work

[The_Mensan]

Deflect most certainly works. Parries works.

What doesn't work is "superior block" and "block property" attacks such as Warden's Top L Attack. It's because the mechanic qualifies it as a "block" and the move is "unblockable"... lol... Makes sense?

[Drazard_TCR]

Deflect most certainly works. Parries works.

What doesn't work is "superior block" and "block property" attacks such as Warden's Top L Attack. It's because the mechanic qualifies it as a "block" and the move is "unblockable"... lol... Makes sense?

ahhh thank you. ive never really understood the superior block, and block property stuff..
but if wardens crushing counterstrike is only specified as a superior block then it makes perfect sense as to why it cant parry it.

[MangoUnclaimed]

Deflect most certainly works. Parries works.

What doesn't work is "superior block" and "block property" attacks such as Warden's Top L Attack. It's because the mechanic qualifies it as a "block" and the move is "unblockable"... lol... Makes sense?

Does this include the Valkyrie's "deflect" mechanic or not? It acts like a Deflect, but I believe it's technically a Block in the direction in which you dodge? I'm curious if I can deflect an unblockable into the stab attack or not as the Valk.