End-game gear is ridiculous broken | Forums

[Alchemist..]

ye, gear stats are ridiculous. yesterday i play 4v4 elimination with orochi who use bow and kunai in start of every fight, drain me to low hp without moving from spawn place and kill with one light hit. really? where is fight? where is fun? and thats only first week of game, i cant imagine what will be afret month or 2 after release when 90% of players have 108 lvl gear you spend 5 min to join match and 1-2 min fight overall? this game is just poorly designed and most sad thing is that this gear wont give you any late game experience/fun useless unitll you want to grind lvl whole days without any fun or skill fights

[tonycawley69]

But you could focus on a high attack stat so you kill them before they get their revenge.

[DeLatv]

Get throw distance, parry and throw them into enviroment kill

[C.K.Paterson]

i think this is the reason why you can find prestige 3 player that already have golden epupment (>lvl 100) since you only have to buy enough crates.



but did it work? because how did the matchmaking know that you are playing an low level character and not your main? cause always when i play a character that i dont play often i still get the prestige 3 and above enemys like when im playing with my main.



that is not totally true in my opinon: of course it would be fair for everyone since everyone has the same op equipment but as rudomm23 says the fights are not feeling like for honor duels anymore, since everyone is just waiting for his revenge and then spamming attack. So even if you have high and equipment as well, it may be fair in terms of that you win 50% of´your duels but they are not fun to play at all.

I've always thought of picking your warrior first then choosing what type of 4v4 you wish to play and find opponents based of the warrior you are using. Then also nerf the revenge stats on equipment.
It turns into a different game at high levels. It's a big issue I can't believe ubi didn't see in development.

[Dez_troi_aR]

You are right in so far, that revenge gear is too strong at the moment. It will most likely get reworked.

But i have three issues with your thread:

- What you are describing is not "End-game". The game is about skill, not gear. A Soccer match is not "endgame" if a bunch of 12 year old (which we all are atm, a week after release) are wearing expensive tricots

- The really balanced mode is Duel. Dont hop into a 4vs4 buttonmash-fest with feats, buffs and gear stats on top and expect everything to be balanced out nicely.

- While rework is needed (as experted with a pretty innovative game so shortly after release) your headline suggests the game is unplayable once players get the mechanics down. The opposite thing is the case.

Ok, thats it from me.
Have a nice day !

[Skarik-]

The thing is, we are 8 days into the game.
Eventually everyone will have this gear.
Then whatever bonuses he is getting from his 108 gear you can have too, or you can have something that counters, like extremely high defence, better attack etc.
I don't think you can balance things out yet until the average gear level is a bit more even across the playerbase.
Having said that, anyone saying gear makes no difference is mad, so the matchmaking needs to stop putting gear 10 people with gear 108 people.
Whatever stats the game is using to matchmake at the moment needs to be looked at.

Endgame still Boils down to revenge spamm. Period.
Revenge shouldnt exist in a game like this in the first place, utter ********. It Ruins every Aspect of skill. So how does a endgame Match look like, revenge spamm vs revenge spamm. Really Not what the game Promised to be.
1. Revenge should be removed
2. (This is not going to happen) gear should have been cosmetics only in the first place, impossible to Balance the game now for ubisoft. Domination should have been skill Based like 1v1 2v2.

[WheepingSong]

Endgame still Boils down to revenge spamm. Period.
Revenge shouldnt exist in a game like this in the first place, utter ********. It Ruins every Aspect of skill. So how does a endgame Match look like, revenge spamm vs revenge spamm. Really Not what the game Promised to be.
1. Revenge should be removed
2. (This is not going to happen) gear should have been cosmetics only in the first place, impossible to Balance the game now for ubisoft. Domination should have been skill Based like 1v1 2v2.

I disagree.
Revenge is brilliant tbh. It was introduced to enable 2v1 and 3v1. If you can pull off a 2v1 or 3v1 it feels great and very satisfying. Imagine all the crying going on if there was no revenge mode.

I agree though. It should not be a thing in 1v1 situations and im sure Ubi will do something about the gear. The game has been out for a week now, keep that in mind.

[TyraelThunder]

ye, gear stats are ridiculous. yesterday i play 4v4 elimination with orochi who use bow and kunai in start of every fight, drain me to low hp without moving from spawn place and kill with one light hit. really? where is fight? where is fun? and thats only first week of game, i cant imagine what will be afret month or 2 after release when 90% of players have 108 lvl gear you spend 5 min to join match and 1-2 min fight overall? this game is just poorly designed and most sad thing is that this gear wont give you any late game experience/fun useless unitll you want to grind lvl whole days without any fun or skill fights

Well, why you don´t dodge the arrow easily? Same with Noob-Uschi. Just dodge it...

And revenge: against new players it´s broken as hell. Against skilled players, revenge means nothing at all. Only my experience so far...

[Waynedetta40k]

Wanna post it here to:



Its ****ing p2w
Its impossible to play new characters in 4v4 once you reached a certain lvl on your account
I have one lvl 3 rep character
Yesterday I want to play Shugoki hes lvl 10 no gear
Got killed in 3 or 4 hits from 100 to 0 from a PK
The PK was on C when i came in he was alone, I grabbed him and ate 1 hit into hyper armor and went with the baseball move.
He got revenge, he lunged at me I blocked. I feinted top heavy to bait his revenge while doing it i ate second hit into hyper armor he popped revenge
He used his AOE attack and finished me off with it

MUCH WOW SUCH GAME

So now iam beeing forced to 1 character other wise i will get killed in 1 shots by skills or in 2-3 hits by random players GJ UBI

You dont believe me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs1kPkllsWA

Dont know why the quali is this **** but right now its perfect because it represents the quali of 4v4 mods.

[Waynedetta40k]

This won't be a thing when the game has been around for longer than 8 days.
Did none of the people talking like this ever play an MMO or anything like that.
You wouldn't dream of trying to fight a level 100 Night Elf Rogue with your level 1 character.
The wrong part is that the game is not matchmaking people against characters that have the same level / gear.
Anyway, you are not being forced to play one character, the game has been out 8 days, you are being forced to level up.
Standard RPG / MMO model for decades.

Which RPG lets me buy the Gear? WoW which your talking about doesnt.
I dont even wanna play an RPG I wanted to play For Honor, they said its skill based, they said gear would do little.
******** basicially