End-game gear is ridiculous broken | Forums

[AKosse1996]

Hey Guys, who came to the idea to make gear like this? i had today a elemination game, where i fightet against an prestige 5 orochi with golden (over lvl 100) equipment. First i thought that this has to be a pro and i had no chance...but i was surprised how bad he was. He did only make hard, predictable attacks and i did parry every single one of them, so that i get with the free guard break an heavy from the top for free (i played orochi too). so he didnt block a single attack, didnt feint or stuff he did just attacked me and getted parryt ever single time. But after i get him down to 1/4 of his life he gets revenge ready (for nothing, except beeing hit by ONE person...i mean how should you prevent such thing?) and because he activated it when i attacked him i fall down, he land a single heavy...and i died. From one attack in revenge mode, that i cant even dodge or stuff since he just has to wait until i do any attack. And he didnt even have a damage buff picked up.

And this was against a player who played (at least in this game) not good at all, if you then would play against an actuall good player you had no chance at all. if you optimise your character for damage and getting revenge as fast as possible you are getting an ridiculous in which you rly dont need any skill at all anymore (except dont be killed by falling from a cliff and stuff.

i know this was already wished for many times, but since i get a high prestige rank now too so that i face only people with high prestige ranks (and high equipment) the 4v4 modes getting a joke from what they are used to be, so can we please get the possibility, to play 4v4´s without any buffs from the epuipment like in 1v1 and 2v2?

[Varicose_Veins]

Ubi may have screwed themselves with this.

If they allow a 4v4 game mode without gear it might mean those who have spent money don't have enough people to play against.

At the same time lots of us don't like playing the highly geared game.

[PRAETORlAN]

Well this whole gearing stuff is broken as ****, I mean guys were already prestige 3-5 and gearscore 108 by the time of last friday. Yes, 3-4 days (depending on when did he reach that on friday) after release. He even made a post about it on the For Honor Reddit. Sure you have to be a nolifer for that, but still.

Also sometimes the gearscore of 1 guy in the enemy team is higher, than the combined gearscore of my whole team.. Ubi really didn't think this through I guess. :|

[ReggiR]

Revenge gear is too strong right now (thats why i dont play revenge gear myself - all my pieces lower revenge stats). It need to be nerfed.

And hard to call end-game gear on reputation 5 character where there is 30 lvls of reputation

My solution against that geared enemy: he got revenge, i feint attack, he use revenge (i dont fall cuz it was feint), wait for end of buff, kill him.

[AKosse1996]

hmm i get it, but the think is that high gear rly destroys the idea of the gear system. The gear system is supposed to be Individualize your stats to your playstyle. for example if you are always going to attack the point from the enemy in conquest mode you use gear that improves your running speed, if you are a tank who stays at your point you are going for more defence, and less mobility and stuff. Its rly a cool idea. And i had rly much fun adapting my gear to my playstyle and fighting against others that are doing the same. But sadly the high end gear comes with combinations that are totally wrecking the whole idea of an skill based fightinggame, since they are just op. Getting killed by 3 hits from a backstabbing peacekeeper with high end gear just does not felt fair in any way, and i think as long as you dont have this high end gears yourself so you can "troll" other players with your gearcombos, noone has fun playing with high level gear.

so if they dont want to make a mode where gear does not matter, they have at least look very closly to the high end gear possibilitys and nerf the stats that just broke the whole game principle. But as long it statys the way it is, i am only playing 4v4 modes for the Quests, what is rly sad, since 4v4 where awesome gamemodes for me until i reach this end level gear area :/

[AKosse1996]

Revenge gear is too strong right now (thats why i dont play revenge gear myself). It need to be nerfed.

And hard to call end-game gear on reputation 5 character where there is 30 lvls of reputation

My solution against that geared enemy: he got revenge, i feint attack, he use revenge (i dont fall cuz it was feint), wait for end of buff, kill him.

as much i know, the highest level of gear is 18 and you can get it when you reached prestige 3 (and the higher prestige ranks only improve your chance for getting his high level gear)

yeah i have to try this out but it still is a very unfunny gamemechanik to play against and as i sayed, if you say want to play a new hero, with lvl 1 gear, and your opponents play high level gear ( and play at least a bit decend) you have no chance winning any 1v1´s against them. And because of this you are "doomed" to play your main character in 4v4 what is not an optimal solution at all

[ReggiR]

as much i know, the highest level of gear is 18 and you can get it when you reached prestige 3 (and the higher prestige ranks only improve your chance for getting his high level gear)

yeah i have to try this out but it still is a very unfunny gamemechanik to play against and as i sayed, if you say want to play a new hero, with lvl 1 gear, and your opponents play high level gear ( and play at least a bit decend) you have no chance winning any 1v1´s against them. And because of this you are "doomed" to play your main character in 4v4 what is not an optimal solution at all

Really? I dont have any character on rep 30 so i couldnt know that. It can be right. If its true, than its strange, cuz you have crates for 500 steel that have 2 higher gear lvl on them, so lvling to rep 3 and buying crates, then upgrading gear and thats it...

[EothK]

I had imagined that the higher I'd level the more amazing/badass and cool the fights would get.

Instead the high lvl gear just turns everyone into defensive turtles waiting to get revenge mode to get 1 or 2 hits in which in 75% of the fights also finish it.

I actually stopped playing my lvl character to return to low lvl opponents for more fun fights.

[tonycawley69]

It's not the gear that's broken, it's the matchmaking.

It would be totally fair if both players had similarly powerful gear, but the matchmaking insists on putting players against each other of unequal skill or gear level.

[AKosse1996]

Really? I dont have any character on rep 30 so i couldnt know that. It can be right. If its true, than its strange, cuz you have crates for 500 steel that have 2 higher gear lvl on them, so lvling to rep 3 and buying crates, then upgrading gear and thats it...

i think this is the reason why you can find prestige 3 player that already have golden epupment (>lvl 100) since you only have to buy enough crates.

I had imagined that the higher I'd level the more amazing/badass and cool the fights would get.

Instead the high lvl gear just turns everyone into defensive turtles waiting to get revenge mode to get 1 or 2 hits in which in 75% of the fights also finish it.

I actually stopped playing my lvl character to return to low lvl opponents for more fun fights.

but did it work? because how did the matchmaking know that you are playing an low level character and not your main? cause always when i play a character that i dont play often i still get the prestige 3 and above enemys like when im playing with my main.

It's not the gear that's broken, it's the matchmaking.

It would be totally fair if both players had similarly powerful gear, but the matchmaking insists on putting players against each other of unequal skill or gear level.

that is not totally true in my opinon: of course it would be fair for everyone since everyone has the same op equipment but as rudomm23 says the fights are not feeling like for honor duels anymore, since everyone is just waiting for his revenge and then spamming attack. So even if you have high and equipment as well, it may be fair in terms of that you win 50% of´your duels but they are not fun to play at all.