Conqueror viability at high lvl play | Forums

[BiZkiT_Walwin]

I think the Conqueror can do the exact same thing as the Warden and Warlord, Warden's got his Shoulderbreak but everybody knows how to dodge that already then there's the Warlord's headbutt which is fast as hell and can't be dodged and the Conqueror's shieldbash which is on the same level with the headbutt and can just be redicioulusly abused as it takes the stamina and the enemy can't properly get away.

[ZenBearV13]

I think the Conqueror can do the exact same thing as the Warden and Warlord, Warden's got his Shoulderbreak but everybody knows how to dodge that already then there's the Warlord's headbutt which is fast as hell and can't be dodged and the Conqueror's shieldbash which is on the same level with the headbutt and can just be redicioulusly abused as it takes the stamina and the enemy can't properly get away.

Conqueror has the weakest bash of the three. Warden can cancel into GB, or just feint it straight up, and the Warlord's is significantly faster. Conq's bash can be dodged reliably.

[BiZkiT_Walwin]

Conqueror has the weakest bash of the three. Warden can cancel into GB, or just feint it straight up, and the Warlord's is significantly faster. Conq's bash can be dodged reliably.

It cannot. I spammed the hell out of my dodge key to the sides and backwards and also tried to parry or block his attacks. It does not work!

https://youtu.be/sig1DFVZNUM

[Aarpian]

It's very viable. A good Conquerer can be a hard nut to cracker even for experienced players.

In today's tournament of 128 players, a Conquerer made the grand final and lost 3-2 to a very good Warlord.

I also won the 2v2 tournament last week, with that same warlord as my brawls partner.

Conq is very strong.

[ThisHermitGuy]

when i play the Conq, just about every fast character can dodge my shield charge doing a 180 dodge around me. Its possible just gotta time it.

[GamerErrant]

It cannot. I spammed the hell out of my dodge key to the sides and backwards and also tried to parry or block his attacks. It does not work!

https://youtu.be/sig1DFVZNUM

It can be dodged, unless you're getting bashed into a wall (which makes your recovery long enough for a chain light+bash, or a free side heavy hit). In that clip he hits you into a wall over and over, notice he stops the chain the second you don't have a wall behind you. In the open it cannot be chained, you recover in time to dodge sideways out of the way of the bash. It is easily the least powerful bash attack when compared to the Warden and Warlord.

[ZenBearV13]

It cannot. I spammed the hell out of my dodge key to the sides and backwards and also tried to parry or block his attacks. It does not work!

https://youtu.be/sig1DFVZNUM

Stop spamming and get the timing right. You can always dodge the bash, even when you're against a wall. Only difference a wall makes is it guarantees a side heavy, otherwise you can only guarantee a light.

[TCTF_SWAT]

Warden can only cancel shoulder bash into Gb nothing else.

[SeeNoWeevil]

Conqueror is going to end up pretty unviable at higher levels of play.

Poor damage, gets screwed with the regen.
No real mixups against a lot of the cast
No faint
Most of his pressure can be backstepped with no way to punish
Awful neutral game

[ZenBearV13]

Warden can only cancel shoulder bash into Gb nothing else.

You can cancel the shoulder charge with the feint button, full stop. From there you can do anything you want. There is no need for the vortex.