Orochi vs PK (Constructive Criticism Appreciated) | Forums

[FlcnSeven]

I'm having a very difficult time with PK's now. With the game having a decent amount of time out now... it's been increasingly difficult to deal with PK's. I'm not sure what to do or if there is actually anything we CAN do. From experience PK's are basically the same thing as Orochi except faster.

In dominion it's hard to even spot PK's because their names are hidden, can't see their hp (until you hit them once), can still land their second attack before we are able zephyr slash after successfully dodging the first attack as well as trading during a wind gust (counter attack). Another thing they can sidestep our GB's but we can't sidestep their's.

One thing that confuses me as well is how they can do a straight stab with their left hand but it's shows either right swing or top. I'm seeing the same animation labeled with 2 different swings. Anyone else or am I just blind? I'd really like some constructive criticism here as to see if maybe I'm doing something wrong or are other Orochi mains on the same boat as I am.

Just a little bit of background on myself. I understand the game mechanics pretty well or at least I'd like to think. I don't believe i'm a slouch when it comes to Orochi as I've prestige him about 15 levels worth during beta closed/open and live. I'd like to think I'm a pretty decent Orochi but man PK's are very difficult now, now that people understand Orochi a lot more than they did during beta.

[insta.Nefer]

i main pk vs orochi its easiest to win dats true. the attack u described is a heavy with cancelatiion into a stab attack (action) cant give u more tips tho all i know its best to do some training with the char u cant win against and than practice some costume games vs bot

[TCTF_SWAT]

Not alot orochi can do. PK is faster, has mroe cancels, a dot attack, better feats and both have the same health. It's quite the uphill battle for the cockroach.

[FactCrusader]

I don't main orochi, but when I use Orochi, PK are mostly easy kills, however there are times they caught me with a guardbreak spam when I'm not ready, I probably will die once or twice, in a duel or elimination, I most definitely won't lose to PK as orochi

So you as a orochi user, you need to understand the nature of this class, he's a counter attacker, not a good offenser, his attack moves are extremely slow(even slower than kensai) if you execute your attack without hitting the target or if you initiate your attack without good planning. you will likely get caught and find yourself in a stun lock by PK. You probably don't want to intiate your attack with orochi's heavies moves, even his light moves are slower than kensais, orochi's advantage is at his counter moves, very unpredictable and fast, use alot parry attack, dash attack,then, guard break when you have to, remember PK have the lowest HP pool, they can only last 3ish shots

But as with all PVP games, tactic aside, the other part is your reflex, timing and experience. Good luck out there.

[TCTF_SWAT]

I don't main orochi, but when I use Orochi, PK are mostly easy kills, however there are times they caught me with a guardbreak spam when I'm not ready, I probably will die once or twice, in a duel or elimination, I most definitely won't lose to PK as orochi

So you as a orochi user, you need to understand the nature of this class, he's a counter attacker, not a good offenser, his attack moves are extremely slow(even slower than kensai) if executed without hitting the target or you initiate your attack without good planning. you will likely get caught and find yourself in a stun lock by PK. You probably don't want to intiate your attack with orochi's heavies moves, even his light moves are slower than kensais, orochi's advantage is at his counter moves, very unpredictable and fast, use alot parry attack, dash attack,then, guard break when you have to, remember PK have the lowest HP pool, they can only last 3ish shots

But as with all PVP games, tactic aside, the other part is your reflex, timing and experience. Good luck out there.

All assassins have the same health.

[Knight_Raime]

That is false. you can GB them when they dash to the side like anyone else. if they are doing a dash attack you can't. but that follows the rules with how you can't GB anyone who's in the middle of attacking.

[pyrenos]

Orochi dont have good Abillities anymore....

[FlcnSeven]

That is false. you can GB them when they dash to the side like anyone else. if they are doing a dash attack you can't. but that follows the rules with how you can't GB anyone who's in the middle of attacking.

Well then it's just me lol. I get successful GB's like 20% of the time. The other time's I fail and get stabbed in the back. When I do it I try to sidestep I get GB from almost behind the target. Maybe I need a better PC or something since i'm floating around 60 fps. I might be reacting a few frames to late.

[FlcnSeven]

As a Peacekeeper, I'm usually killed by the Orochi guard break heavy(?) attack. I'd say that the best thing you can do is stay hard to predict. Use lots of up attacks as they are quite fast and the peacekeeper can't hold a block. Side step attacking has been useful, too, though if you are doing anything like that over and over you'll want to switch it up before she gets wiser.

Your best bet is hit and run tactics, like she uses. Remain unpredictable and see what kind of peacekeeper she is. Is she reactive, patient, and defensive? Or is she aggressive and punishing? If she's defensive, either with lots of blocks or dodges you'll want to guard break her, but you need to be sly about it. Begin a chain by an upper light attack and go right into the guard break afterwards. If she's being aggressive you'll need to counter with the side steps and the back step lunge attack. But again, after something has worked two or three times you will want to switch it up to something else. Continuously changing your successful strategies is the key to success. If something works, do it again, maybe two more times, then your enemy will expect it again and you'll switch it up and they'll get messed up. By this time you'll be close to, if not already, victorious.

I do most of this stuff but maybe I should try the hit and run tactic and try and bait the forward top attack and counter that. I don't normally try to counter her attacks because she's fast but PK's that don't do switch ups and side step attacks a lot are easy because I just wait and counter. I'll definitely try maybe rolling away and bait a lot of dash attacks and try to turn the pressure on her.

[Deuz_Vult]

I main Orochi and i feel like i have an advantage against PK, only hard heroes are Warlord, Warden and Nobushi. Never had problems against any PK.