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[itsPlanB]

Philippides or Pheidippides might disagree with you

,,, Or they could just do away with infinite sprint like they should have AGES ago and this wouldn't even be a thing. Have you EVER seen anyone run that far in full armor? No, you haven't. GTFO with this nonsense, Ubisoft.

[Munktor]

,,, Or they could just do away with infinite sprint like they should have AGES ago and this wouldn't even be a thing. Have you EVER seen anyone run that far in full armor? No, you haven't. GTFO with this nonsense, Ubisoft.

How many times have you seen a guy get his head chopped off and get back up in 15 seconds as a new person with a new head? Oh, never? GTFO with this nonsense Sakkaros.

[BlackbirdMPK]

You sir are the embodiment of everything that is wrong with this game and it's society. You're one of those people who don't like when things don't meet your standard and then rail against that standard by trying to paint others as having less of a foothold on what is and isn't ethical in a game. Your entire post isn't about broken mechanics. It's about your lack of understanding of the game mode you're playing. It's quite simple. Skirmish, Elimination and Dominion are not four distinct one versus one battles. You're just not capable of grasping that and it's affecting your game play and your evaluation of the game itself, especially when you say it's an abuse of a mechanic.

Never stated any one of those was a four man 1v1. Nice strawman. Next.

See what you did here. You've attempted to trivialize their strategy because you weren't cunning enough to actually thwart them running away. I would say that your lack of skill in finishing off the player is the direct issue here. Not their having run away.

An assumption as well as an incorrect one. Next.

So you say there is no real standard. You say that players are free to play as they wish, and then you contradict yourself and say that that they're taking the fun out of the game for you and go on and on about their cowardliness. Seems to me you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here.

Fun is subjective. So are standards. It's my subjective view and not meant to be facts. Next.

I think you spelled that word incorrectly. The word honorable should be replaced with ignorant. You're again trying to force everyone to play the game to your standards and satisfaction. One problem. The rules of engagement don't require that. You're not good enough to enforce it in your games, and players are beating you and you're upset. The one common factor that is causing your issue? Y O U. Yup. You're your own problem.

Making a post expressing my opinion doesn't equal forcing anyone to do anything. Did you read this and are now compelled to play differently? Secondly, I'm not upset and stated in another reply that I easily kill fleeing players. I simply stated that it's annoying. Wanna run? No problem. I'm still gonna kill you when I catch you. Because the corresponding trait with players who flee is that they're bad. Strawmanning yet again. Next.

You also spelled that one incorrectly as well. You put in cowardly and I think you meant to put in the word savvy. They are smart enough to know that their death will in turn give you an advantage over the remainder of their team, which is what you want. The issue here is that you're not good enough to combat their strategy of leaving you behind. Just like the previous issue I wrote about ... you are the common issue. You.

Last i checked the correct spelling or coward ins't savvy. Seeing as how they have completely different alphabetical digits. I'll reiterate: you say I can't "counter" fleeing, so please tell me what the "counter" is? Obviously catching someone. Which is an issue if the character is faster than you. There's no legit way to "combat" fleeing unless (1) the person has an equal or greater run speed, or (2) you can do what they do and look for another teammate to gang up on to even the odds. I'm sorry did I just cover that I DO know how to combat it? Never stated I don't know how to combat it, that's another strawman on your part, I stated that it's annoying. Next.

It seems unrealistic? Have you ever been in a realistic combative situation? Just for clarity sake, what they're doing is called a retreat. Per Webster's dictionary, "(of an army) withdraw from enemy forces as a result of their superior power or after a defeat." That means that you were winning. They knew they were losing and they chose to retreat to a safer location.

"(of an army) withdraw from enemy forces as a result of their superior power or after a defeat." So run away if you're garbage. Gotcha. Next.

Lets revisit this realism trend you're talking about here. Let me just hit the low hanging fruit. Can warriors really revive their dead friends? Can I revive my buddy who was there fighting with me in war so we can go back and take that guy out? Stop with the realism shtick. It's a strawman argument that provides zero credibility to your whining about your perceived lack of character, all while revealing your character.

Oh wow look you DO know what a strawman is. If that's the case then why did you build so many? Next.

Gotcha. I can't win so please make it harder for the guy I'm fighting to use sound judgement and strategy to defeat me. Fleeing is a viable option. It's clearly working or you wouldn't be here whining and crying about it, as you've made this abundantly clear that you're having multiple issues with this type of strategy. Oh, just an FYI the speed buff exists in both Skirmish and Elimination. The only mode that it doesn't exist in that is 4v4 is Dominion which would be just too powerful a toy.

If you're not garbage in the first place you wouldn't have to flee. Point. Blank. Period. Again. yet again. It's not an issue that affects whether I win or lose in any way. It's just cowardly. Next.

You're a cry baby who didn't get his way and have been given an award all your life so you don't understand how to deal with adversity. You're unable to adapt to things that are going on around you and expect everyone else including the manufacturer of the game to bend to your needs.

I'll tell you what I told the other guy: don't be a psychologist, because your attempt to "read me" is so far from the truth it's hysterical. Lol given an award all my life. That's incredibly funny. Next. Oh btw, strawman.

How about actually getting better at the game, making sound strategic adjustments and overcoming adversity. You might be amazed what happens.

And now that you've built an entire field of strawmen, I'm not going to be a strawcrow and fuel this. Your entire argument was built on assumptions and as much as you try to sound intellectual, you come off as an idiot.

[Brave_Thunder]

Personally in the few elimination games that I play I use my pk,basically because if a 2-3v1 situation happens,I can run till the end of the round.No one can tell others how to play the game.Sure,someone will always be coward(tactics...meh) and flee from a 1v1,but at least you can flee from those very brave(/s) gankers and let them time to think at what they've done.

[BlackbirdMPK]

that´s your self imposed rule on how to play this mode. last time i checked the only rules where basically that the team with at least one guy standing wins and that´s pretty much it.

Self-imposed... rule? No. Self-imposed standard. You're free to run like a little girl that's fine lol.

[Rafter74]

People really want to bring realism into this discussion? It's a dumb argument. Not only could you not take more than one hit to the face without being dead, but the flames coming out of my back don't exist in real life, and a heavy in full armor would make it about 10 steps in a full sprint before he fell over dead. So, yeah, shut up with the realism angle.

As far as "runners" who cares? Let them run. If you are playing 4v4 the name of the game is to win as a team, not to rack up as many solo kills as you can accomplish. I'm a Peacekeeper, I don't run, people run from me all the time. I hope they are bringing back friends with them because I will punish them for it. At the end of the day people who run aren't accomplishing anything, unless your own team is full of runners as well.

I also love how it's always the heavies that ***** about runners, but love to sit on a point and do nothing but throw people off cliffs all day long. Do I ***** about that? No, it's a part of the game and I deal with it, just like you should have to deal with people being faster than you. Sorry, this isn't your personal playground where all the rules are going to benefit your class. Sometimes you are going to have to suck it up and accept that you have a weakness.

[BlackbirdMPK]

Personally in the few elimination games that I play I use my pk,basically because if a 2-3v1 situation happens,I can run till the end of the round.No one can tell others how to play the game.Sure,someone will always be coward(tactics...meh) and flee from a 1v1,but at least you can flee from those very brave(/s) gankers and let them time to think at what they've done.

Change your name, please.

[Prophit618]

I actually agree with one part of OPs original posting. When people run before the fight has even started, that seems pretty silly and more than a little annoying.
When you're in a fight though, and you're losing, by all means, retreat. Go get some objectives and head back, or go get help a teammate, and I'll do the same. Is it mildly irritating. Why yes it is. But so is getting killed. And in the end I'd rather my opponent play smart than adhere to some arbitrary codes of honor.

For what it's worth, I personally always try to win my 1v1, and I almost never flee from a fight even if I'm losing it (though this is in part because I'm usually so tied up in the battle I don't think about it, not a matter of honor or pride). And in Brawl mode I won't even go help my partner after winning unless someone else has done so first. But any 4v4 mode is war, and to complain about fairness in a war is pretty childish behavior.

[AKDagriZ]

People really want to bring realism into this discussion? It's a dumb argument. Not only could you not take more than one hit to the face without being dead, but the flames coming out of my back don't exist in real life, and a heavy in full armor would make it about 10 steps in a full sprint before he fell over dead. So, yeah, shut up with the realism angle.

As far as "runners" who cares? Let them run. If you are playing 4v4 the name of the game is to win as a team, not to rack up as many solo kills as you can accomplish. I'm a Peacekeeper, I don't run, people run from me all the time. I hope they are bringing back friends with them because I will punish them for it. At the end of the day people who run aren't accomplishing anything, unless your own team is full of runners as well.

I also love how it's always the heavies that ***** about runners, but love to sit on a point and do nothing but throw people off cliffs all day long. Do I ***** about that? No, it's a part of the game and I deal with it, just like you should have to deal with people being faster than you. Sorry, this isn't your personal playground where all the rules are going to benefit your class. Sometimes you are going to have to suck it up and accept that you have a weakness.

Lets face it ! a skilled PK or Nobushi its a friggin nightmare i often run like a coward and ask my friend to help me handle these 2 specific hero lol

[Brave_Thunder]

Change your name, please.

Because I run from gankers?Lol.I hate runners in 1v1 just like you.But if someone hasn't the courage to fight me in a fair fight,why should I show courage to him?