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[AKDagriZ]

in brawl mode . Even the BOT have no honor . If you give em an extra inch of free space they prefer to reach their teamate

[Pope138]

The way I see it, if your opponent flees, then you won the fight. Anytime my opponent flees (during a 1v1) I just do a victory emote.

I myself have ran from a fight. Not to flee, but for better positioning or to take the fight to a captured zone for the heal advantage. And I completely understand fleeing when you're getting ganged up on.

[Brave_Thunder]

Why don't guys like you just play duel. I don't understand it.
Just yesterday 3 guys of my team decided to fight the last enemy one after another instead of finishing the round. I killed two and he killed me while i was low. End of the story, enemy won and there is no reason you people play 4on4 when you don't play with your team.

Because some of us care more about combat skills rather than cheesy tactics to win.If your enemy was able to defeat all your teammates one after one,he deserved to win.

[Starcanum]

Why don't guys like you just play duel. I don't understand it.
Just yesterday 3 guys of my team decided to fight the last enemy one after another instead of finishing the round. I killed two and he killed me while i was low. End of the story, enemy won and there is no reason you people play 4on4 when you don't play with your team.

Because playing to win is not the only viable strategy. You can also play to improve, or play to have fun etc. If they have fun playing 2v2s the way they want to play 2v2s, why not. There's no specific ruleset, so unless everyone agrees on one single playstyle, people will just keep themselves in mind. I've even seen brawls go tournament-style with only two players fighting at first, then the team that lost sends the remaining player and so on. It's totally up to players to choose the way they play their own game, and if that offends their teammates for some reason, well they should either specify what they want from a teammate from the start if it means so much, or grow a thicker skin towards their winrate. Or get a premade teammate who shares their concepts of rules in a specific gamemode.

[KasharMashar]

this game is a joke.

severs kick you everyday at least 10 times in a 2 hour period.

your in the middle of battle that you or your team is winning and you are getting your bounties done.


BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kicked. no reason.


network, internet fine.

For honor kicked you because......... we are **** suckers and want you to break your control several times


**** YOU

[Starcanum]

Both above me. I gave a specific example of a eliminiation experience i had.

I was talking about brawls when I referred to 2v2s though. Elimination has something brawls don't, and it's snowballing. Feats, power-ups etc. Because of it, I don't think anyone should even remotely consider elimination a 1v1 format, same for dominion or skirmish (kinda sounds ridiculous even). At the start of the second round, it's possible that your enemy will have already unlocked 3 of their feats and obviously you shouldn't just look for a 1v1 battle etc. But as for brawls, I prefer them the honorable way. Respect both my teammate and my opponent's teammate to let them finish their fight without an interruption. I don't mind if the enemies don't share my values and wouldn't enforce it in any way though, and in some cases I'd easily switch to the "no-honor" way myself as a reaction.

[dayLockey]

So much saltiness and the competitive ladder hasn't even been released yet. I have some very serious worries about this game.

While I'm not nearly as morally abrasive as the OP, I do agree with him that it is frustrating when people do not fight you fairly and choose to "play smart" (running away). I guess I'm just not the type of person who plays casual modes in videogames to "win at all costs" similar to how I never played ranked games solely for rating. It's about having fun to me and being cowardly, cheesy, dishonorable and toxic has never been much of an appeal.

There is a very distinctive difference in interest from one player to the next. While I don't get mad in this game when people jump me 1v2 while I'm fighting someone else, I also do not get angry at my teammates for doing the same. However, all these posters saying that people who do not fight with honor are actually skilled individuals is laughable at best. There is no intelligent play in fleeing and regrouping, that is simply survival instincts, there is a difference.

Intelligence, "playing smart" is outplaying your enemy either positionally, reactively or just outright mechanically. The whole "playing smart" bit only applies when you're actually fighting someone. It's funny to say "oh yeah I just ran away from that guy who clearly outplayed me, I'm smarter than him". It just sounds idiotic to be perfectly honest and a way for less experienced/skilled players to cope with their short-comings.

And also to those who are trying to rationalize that losing your fight, running away and "being smart" is better for your team. The reality is, people want players who can win their duels 1v1, even in a 4v4 setting. It means you are strong. The last thing I want on my team is some weakling but "smart player" who consistently is outplayed, low on health, running around trying to get buffs and revive people rather than play the game.

When competitive 4v4 or whatever format comes out, people aren't going to be looking for "smart players". Any single person with hands and eyes can identify when something is going wrong and simply run away if the time calls for it. There is virtually no intelligence needed to run from a fight and look to backstab someone else, lol.

[NightBlade87]

I am a blunt person.


I don't really care about sugarcoating, going with the crowd or being liked. I am content with just being right.

Doesn't like to "sugarcoat" things. Proceeds to sugarcoat combat by creating a list of arbitrary "rules" for it. You see, the type of people who romanticize war are the same people who perpetuate it. Those are your "weeaboos" and "white knights". Then there are the people who see it for what it is and don't pussyfoot around it. There has never been true "honor" in warfare, it has never been pretty, or "polite". If you don't like war, don't engage in it in the first place. That would be the "honorable" thing to do. The game is what it is and so is combat. If the developers want to fix it, they will. So, don't hate the player, hate the game. But the idea of "honor" is a fantasy. One which has always been designed to manipulate and control loyalty to a particular seat of power, but never your seat. That's the kicker. "Chivalry" ,"Bushido" -- have never been how they are romanticized and portrayed to be.

"I am content with just being right." And there lies your problem. Your pride and arrogance doesn't allow you to think outside the box. And your "oath" -- however "noble" it may be, is what makes prime fuel for conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF0wa0W13yw <----- I'll just leave this here.

Along with this quote:
“You don't just have people who wake up in the morning and say, "What evil things can I do today, because I'm Mr. Evil?" People do things for what they think are justified reasons. Everybody is the hero of their own story, and you have to keep that in mind. If you read a lot of history, as I do, even the worst and most monstrous people thought they were the good guys. We're all very tangled knots.” - George R.R. Martin

[TheLawbring3r]

So much saltiness and the competitive ladder hasn't even been released yet. I have some very serious worries about this game.

While I'm not nearly as morally abrasive as the OP, I do agree with him that it is frustrating when people do not fight you fairly and choose to "play smart" (running away). I guess I'm just not the type of person who plays casual modes in videogames to "win at all costs" similar to how I never played ranked games solely for rating. It's about having fun to me and being cowardly, cheesy, dishonorable and toxic has never been much of an appeal.

There is a very distinctive difference in interest from one player to the next. While I don't get mad in this game when people jump me 1v2 while I'm fighting someone else, I also do not get angry at my teammates for doing the same. However, all these posters saying that people who do not fight with honor are actually skilled individuals is laughable at best. There is no intelligent play in fleeing and regrouping, that is simply survival instincts, there is a difference.

Intelligence, "playing smart" is outplaying your enemy either positionally, reactively or just outright mechanically. The whole "playing smart" bit only applies when you're actually fighting someone. It's funny to say "oh yeah I just ran away from that guy who clearly outplayed me, I'm smarter than him". It just sounds idiotic to be perfectly honest and a way for less experienced/skilled players to cope with their short-comings.

And also to those who are trying to rationalize that losing your fight, running away and "being smart" is better for your team. The reality is, people want players who can win their duels 1v1, even in a 4v4 setting. It means you are strong. The last thing I want on my team is some weakling but "smart player" who consistently is outplayed, low on health, running around trying to get buffs and revive people rather than play the game.

When competitive 4v4 or whatever format comes out, people aren't going to be looking for "smart players". Any single person with hands and eyes can identify when something is going wrong and simply run away if the time calls for it. There is virtually no intelligence needed to run from a fight and look to backstab someone else, lol.

This absolutely smashed the nail on the head. I feel the same as you 100%. You, sir, deserve a box of Girl Scout cookies. What's your favorite?

[NightBlade87]

Your confusing war with wargames. This is a game, it's not a war. There is a huge difference.

True. And the rules of that game, are the game itself. If the developers intended to have it played differently, they would have designed it that way. Or will make the necessary fixes. If not, it is what it is.