Does Conqueror needs a buff in heavy attack damage? | Forums

[Fuqbois]

Hi guys, i main Conq, correct if i'm wrong but i think he is the only class that can't execute an enemy with a heavy when they are at 1 bar health. They can just run away while under 1 bar and recover, this is a insanely huge disadvantage, and we already struggle with offense.

Also they claim that Conq is a "heavy hitter", we know he is not.

And don't even start with Charge attacks, its the easiest thing to block/parry, and we don't have feint so...(yeah we can cancel or full block stance but thats not what i'm saying), and no, i'm not asking feint for Conqs.

I'm just asking for a little buff on the first heavy attack damage, its currently the LOWEST in game (Valk does more lul), it does 23 damage, i think 25 is enough to execute?

And since we are here, why his top heavy attack does the same damage as his side heavy but its way slower? (This probably happens with other classes, its just dumb to me)

[Munktor]

Buffing CQ's heavy attack would be a bad idea long term. His damage output is well in line with his capabilities in general imo.

Especially when you consider that his powered-up swing (holding heavy attack) scales off of his heavy damage.

[Fuqbois]

I understand what you said but:

1- His charge attack is extremely easy to play around, specially in duels.

2- He haves the LOWEST heavy attack damage in game (also the light), but i understand the light damage since its guarantee after shield bash. But if you compare to warlord heavy, he does 30 damage on top and 35 on side, and his top HA is pretty fast compared with Conq, valk heavys are 25 damage.

3- I'm talking about a 2 damage buff (if 25 is enough to execute), it wouldn't make him op or anything, even with charge dmg scaling, it wouldn't have a huge increase, and they could just maintain the charged damage as it is.

[whovie]

I don't think it's that simple. You have to consider your gear build and the opponents, the character your facing and their base defense. Some characters you will be able to execute others you wont. I'm not trying to refute your claim, just showing the factors that go into it.

[Fuqbois]

I don't think it's that simple. You have to consider your gear build and the opponents, the character your facing and their base defense. Some characters you will be able to execute others you wont. I'm not trying to refute your claim, just showing the factors that go into it.

I'm mainly talking abot duels/brawls, gear doesn't matter, i'm 99% sure that Conq is the ONLY character that can't execute another with one bar of HP. One bar = 25 health, his heavy is the only sub 25, not to mention that he have one of the slowests attack speed in game, and he isn't even nearly the best class in game, even with incoming light attack buffs, this 2 damage buff wouldn't break the game.

[darksavior1977]

Conq should be pushed to a 30-35 range, same as warlord imo. He is listed as a heavy hitter, and the charged heavy is telegraphed and consumes stamina, enough for opponents to avoid you entirely, or if they get hit, they deserved it and you "paid for it" with stamina you could have used on other moves instead.

Let me put it another way, when I face a Conqueror, I am worried about 3 things, he'll be hard to kill, he'll be a GB thrower, or he'll be really good at chain light strikes from multiple angles. Heavy attacks are the least worried about thing.

[Munktor]

I'm mainly talking abot duels/brawls, gear doesn't matter, i'm 99% sure that Conq is the ONLY character that can't execute another with one bar of HP. One bar = 25 health, his heavy is the only sub 25, not to mention that he have one of the slowests attack speed in game, and he isn't even nearly the best class in game, even with incoming light attack buffs, this 2 damage buff wouldn't break the game.

I don't have a video to prove it, but i'm more than confident i've done over 25 damage with the CQ's heavy attack, as i've done over a bar in 1 heavy. Now, I had to charge that attack first - but I think that's why. The CQ can do more heavy attack damage via a charged swing. Does any other hero have that ability?

[darksavior1977]

I don't have a video to prove it, but i'm more than confident i've done over 25 damage with the CQ's heavy attack, as i've done over a bar in 1 heavy. Now, I had to charge that attack first - but I think that's why. The CQ can do more heavy attack damage via a charged swing. Does any other hero have that ability?

Many hit harder without charging, and no one hits harder with a charged swing than Shugoki. The 23 number is the Conqueror's unbuffed base damage on a normal heavy swing.

[Fuqbois]

Many hit harder without charging, and no one hits harder with a charged swing than Shugoki. The 23 number is the Conqueror's unbuffed base damage on a normal heavy swing.

Yeah, i'm talking about non charged, ALL characters hits harder then him. Even valk.

[BiZkiT_Walwin]

His alpha damage is really high already imo. Taking into account that he's also got this unblockable shield bash think makes it basically impossible to kill a Conqueror as a Warden because he can spam it even more than the Warden can spam his Vortex, just feels like a running tank you can't do anything against..