Please change stamina system!!! | Forums

[ROCKSALITTLE]

LOL you do realize that 3 days is a lot and it shows nothing about your skills? Realistic mode is actually very easy to do lol.

3 days at 4 hours a day is 12 hours. It wasn't easy, it cheats. Your an idiot. Please stop posting to my thread.

[ROCKSALITTLE]

you can be completely drained in stamina from a few attacks, with enemy grabs also draining your stamina. A huge portion of the meta involves around just depleting stamina then going for the gb > knockdown kill. The game should be more than that. At a minimum they should greatly decrease stamina costs so its lasts about twice as much as now. So its more about how you use your skills and less about playing turtle. Attack, wait, attack, wait, attack.. Wait. Gets old. A more active combat system that only punishes you if you just spam spam spam your attacks is better. Hell, two full zone attacks and you're basically out of stamina. With certain classes zone attacks are a huge portion of your combo system and you get dominated with the current stamina style.

Exactly!

[ZDragonLord X]

Okay, after reading all replies here, as well as your basically copy/paste post, I have a few things to say:

> The IRL person behind the screen has nothing to do with the game. It's a fictional game, it is not a "based on real events" game. You can try to be realistic, but for balance sake, some realism has to be tweaked. In this case, stamina.

> Who cares where you sit on the board? The people at the bottom have the same base stats as those on top. It literally comes to how they play. Now in 4v4 with gear stats, that is different. Find gear with a stamina build. Easy as that.

> Bashing on others will not help your case at all. If anything, it destroys your credibility, and makes you look terrible. Neither of which are good when trying to make a case against the game and get it fixed, it only turns it into a rage post.

> I have yet to have an issue with stamina personally. I play Conq, who lives on it, but I pace and time my swings. Maybe just practice different chains?

> Removal would be a terrible idea. Think of all the ultra spammy and stunny people with bottomless stamina. No thanks. The system is in place for that very reason.

> Maybe flux the bar based on class. For example, the agile people have less, but attacks cost less. Heavy classes have a bigger bar with adjusted costs. All it needs is to be a class linked stat instead of a flat rate bar for all. I mean Shokugi can swing maybe twice, same with other heavies.

Point being, there is work needed, yes, but removal is not the option.

On a side note in relation to the talk about realism:
The gear they wear's weight and such is dependant on material/culture/time period. For example, Law wouldn't be able to be actively in the field long. That is all iron and heavy as fuh. Most knights did not wear their gear 24/7 and most didn't even have that. The soldiers and such were what most knights looked like on the field.
I live roleplay with real steel. After a campaign you are dead tired, even a few hours in the freezing or heat. They had it rough back then, cut the devs some slack for trying to capture that.

[yenboi3025]

I can't even with this post.

Try again but less angry and check your statements for self contradiction.

[l_Azure_l]

I guess he hasn't played game like DS or MH so the idea of stamina is alien too him.

IMO, it's like how most FPS shooting nowadays can recovery hp by just doesn't get hit for a few min. It's not realistic but it makes gameplay better and more strategic than button mashing and spamming moves like StreetFighter.

[ROCKSALITTLE]

On a side note in relation to the talk about realism:
The gear they wear's weight and such is dependant on material/culture/time period. For example, Law wouldn't be able to be actively in the field long. That is all iron and heavy as fuh. Most knights did not wear their gear 24/7 and most didn't even have that. The soldiers and such were what most knights looked like on the field.
I live roleplay with real steel. After a campaign you are dead tired, even a few hours in the freezing or heat. They had it rough back then, cut the devs some slack for trying to capture that.

Spot on! Thank you for responding. This quote is especially useful "After a campaign you are dead tired, even a few hours in the freezing or heat." HOURS being the operative word here, not SECONDS!

Addiotnally agile characters have MORE stamina because they don't have all that armor! Agile characters without armor can go longer and harder!!! With speed and agility comes endurance. Lets talk about Navy Seals/special forces if you wanna discuss any aspect of "realism". Their field kits are typically 80-150 lbs and they go for WEEKS or longer. In the game we are the best most powerful warriors in the realm... WHY ARE WE SUCH WORE OUT PUSSIES?!?! THERE IS ZERO ASPECT OF REALISM IN THE "stamina" system! Its ONLY an unnecessary system designed to "equalize" or "level" the playing field. The reality is that a "Law bringer" would be hanging meat for a Samurai.

[ROCKSALITTLE]

I can't even with this post.

Try again but less angry and check your statements for self contradiction.

Good. Don't. No.

PS. Why even bother "chiming in"? No one cares.

[ROCKSALITTLE]

I guess he hasn't played game like DS or MH so the idea of stamina is alien too him.

IMO, it's like how most FPS shooting nowadays can recovery hp by just doesn't get hit for a few min. It's not realistic but it makes gameplay better and more strategic than button mashing and spamming moves like StreetFighter.

I own a video game publishing company. I've played EVERYTHING! Your assumptions are purely based in ignorance. There is a HUGE difference between button mashing and high speed skill. AGAIN, please stop making this about ME! Thanks tho!

PS. If you only know how to button mash "StreetFighter" you have NO SKILL, you don't know what I'm talking about, and this entire thread will be lost on you.

[LeGiTxShdwOdEth]

Please by all means. Go wear 100lbs of armor and hold a 35lbs Two hand sword and spin it at waist height in under a second twice. First time from holding it over the shoulder. Just like the warden.
Then proceed to return to that position before you spin it a second time.

And when you pass out from exhaustion trying to spin it faster than you can in real life and fall on the blade. Make sure some emergency room operators are on the standby to save your life. You never know what part of that chain or Plate mail you put on wrong is going to fail.

Your point is invalid because you seem to think this is Super smash brothers where you can make yourself and jigglypuff and kill people by falling asleep. Your point is invalid.

your logic is flawed my friend... Most if not all Hand and a half swords/Great sword weighed no more then 2-5lbs in the 11th and 12th century and i can tell you from experiance im almost 250lbs or so and i can sing a Hand and a half/Great sword quite a few time before my arms start to hurt now take and smaller dude about 200lbs and workouts quite alot now you can almost double the swing for him then me...as far as armor went full plate armor was no more then a "For show" thing so most knights where just in chain mail and maybe plate gloves shin guards and a helm that weighted no more then 20lbs in the 11th century... BTW only untrained swordsmen ever telegraphed strikes like they do in the game....

[G4MEV3R]

The stamina system adds a sense of patience, tempo, and awareness to the game. The fact that you want it removed makes me think you shouldn't play the game because it isn't for you. Go play Warframe or something fast paced that caters to your sense of enjoyment.

This is a game of chess.

Hmpf. Man, what about you just GTFO if you don't mind to support the playerbase? What do you have in your ****in head?! I've seen you commenting around, mostly in the posts concerning about the connections issues (VERY URGENT issues to be resolved), and you are there trying always to argument against the players. What the heck of guy you are if you understand, and I'm sure you do because you won't ******ed, that the multiplayer connection system in For Honor is suffering deadly right now, and you just keep countering everyone else who IS just right AND you should agree? Let me know what you think about this! Everyone else would love too.