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so there's the rumor going around that two of the characters coming out are a ninja and a roman due to the outlines on the season pass. I really hope this isn't true as neither of these characters fit at all. Ninjas were seen as disgraceful by the Bushido, which is the code of honor Samurai follow. Adding a Ninja to their ranks jsut doesn't make sense, at all. You could make some arguments, but at the end of the day if you're trying to be accurate in your portral of the cultures, Ninja just doesn't fit.
The Roman just doesn't' make sense. The romans were long gone by the time any of the factions were even a thing. Just cuz he's white doesn't mean he fits with the knights. Like why? You have so much to draw from, why do you need to take from a culture that is no where near what's in the game?
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Ninja - Nobunaga Oda and Ieyasu Tokugawa were well known for using assassins(ninja) to kill rival daimyo and leaders. I don't see why they wouldn't include ninja into the game, Hattori Hanzo, for instance was a ninja who saved Ieyasu and became a lord. The whole "Samurai never did anything dishonorable, because Bushido" is frankly silly.Originally Posted by GTCSeventhSon Go to original post
Roman - This is a fantasy universe. It doesn't correlate to our history. Who's to say there isn't a small group of Roman-esque characters within the world. The knights have legions, IE. Stone Legion, Blackstone Legion, etc.
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I mean he used an exception to the rule argument. he didn't prove me wrong. There's an exception to every rule, it's a dumb argument to make. It's akin to someone saying humans can run up to 20 MPH and this guy come sin like "Yeah but Usain bolt did 28." It's just annoying.
And it does correlate to our world. The whole story is that the world was as we know it, until there was a cataclysmic earthquake. Hurr Durr fantasy is a dumb argument too. Just cuz it's historical fiction doesn't mean there's Roman Centurian runnigns around one thousand year later lmao. Plus, they use ****ing bronze. This is all set in the steel age. How do you even justify having warriors in a steel based army using an inferior metal for their weapons and armor? It's like having babylonians or egyptians runnign around. it's nonsensical.
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They use bronze? Do you know something I don't? We haven't seen what equipment they are using. They could very well be using steel. Just because they look like Roman Centurions doesn't mean they are stuck in 200AD while everyone else is in the 11th-16th century. Fantasy argument can still be used here, because, ya know, fantasy universe.Originally Posted by GTCSeventhSon Go to original post
Edit - Knights appear to be from the 13th-14th century. Vikings only existed from the 800-1066AD. The Samurai are wearing Sengoku Period (1467-1603AD) armor. So no, "The whole story is that the world was as we know it, until there was a cataclysmic earthquake." this game is riddled with fantasy elements.
Edit 2 - On your first point - This isn't an exception. Look at the history of ninja/shinobi in Japan. They were widely used. They were only deemed "dishonorable" by some samurai, because they were mostly peasants who would challenge the rigid structure and hierarchy of the samurai.
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I mean if it's a roman, it uses bronze. if it doesn't use bronze, it isn't a roman. pretty simple. if I gave a WW2 soldier space marine armor, is it still a WW2 soldier? lol That seems pretty cut and dry to me.
Knights and Vikings existed in the same period, and while it wasn't likely, they very well could have run into each other. The last Norse invasion of England happened the same year as it's conquest by Norman knights. (1066) Knights were introduced in France around the 970s. Some places had knights as early as 950s. By 1000 they were very much the kind of aristocratic knights we envision.
As far as the samurai are concerned, the armor could easily be Kozane dou gusoku style which is pre-Sengoku period.
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You're the only one stating that they are Romans. The class could just be called Centurion and could be some offshoot of the Knights. Again, they don't need to be Romans to look like Roman soldiers.Originally Posted by GTCSeventhSon Go to original post
The opening cinematic for the game shows knights in plate armor during the cataclysm. Norman Knights were using chain mail. You and I both know plate armor didn't become a thing until the late Middle Ages.
For Samurai - it could very well be both. The armors shown in game are between pre-Sengoku and Edo period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX1QgJZXE7k opening cinematic.
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Well, the trailer also starts all three factions with much earlier technology than they're at 1000 years later where the game picks up. Gotta remembers that. and the average knight in the game does wear chainmail, it's jsut the players who use full plate.
and the silhouette looks exactly like a centurion. Let's take a look at the character in question: https://assets.vg247.com/current//20...old_deluxe.jpg
He's clearly wearing an open face helm, and his armor seems to be a pic between bronze and leather like the Roman centurions wore. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... The entire concept as presented just realyl stands out like a sore thumb within the Knight ranks.
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Uhm, what? Both Lorica segmentata and lorica hamata are made using iron. Their primary swords such as the gladius and spatha were made using steel. The roman empire lasted for quite some time, bronze wasn't in any way all they used.Originally Posted by GTCSeventhSon Go to original post
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A ninja would not seem wrong to me. The peacekeeper herself seems to be some sort of assassin as well which would not necessarily correlate with a knights code of honor, yet they do not seem out of place within the faction.
However i dont like the idea of Romans, no matter how plausible it may be in a fantasy setting. It just doesnt seem to fit with the other characters and would majorly break immersion for me.
