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Why is this doable? If he charges you have to dodge, which then is a free GB on you when they cancel into it. WHY?
This literally makes shoulder charge free damage against certain people. If you dont dodge, the charge hits you and you take 2 lights, if you do dodge, you get guard broken and take a heavy. This can be spammed 3 or 4 times in a row and will just instantly kill certain classes. Not to mention their already obscenely fast zone attack.
How is something this egregiously broken in the game?
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i agree. i can't believe this is still in the game when everyone complained how warlord could cancel into guardbreak as well off his headbutt. so i dont understand how this is fair that the warden can do this? not to mention for the fact he gets rewarded much better for landing his unblockable attack than the warlord. on top of it having a farther range and tracks better than the headbutt.
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It's a 50/50 (well, not a true vortex, since there is a way to escape all option, but you get the idea). It's not broken, it's working as intended and it's the main Warden's tool. Without being able to cancel into gb, that move would be useless because it's heavily telegraphed and EVERYBODY would dodge it.
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Honestly, there should be no situation in which you cannot counter a GB. It gives far too much damage potential to get free ones. If that were the case, many of my complaints about the game would be gone.Originally Posted by Chucky_Jones Go to original post
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it actually is a vortex...Originally Posted by Ryumanjisen Go to original post
i've tested this with another player and it is NOT humanly possible to counter it on reaction...
you have to guess and play the lottery and maybe he does the same thing you are trying to counter.
BUT i still think its fine as it is, warden just has a bit much of anything, but THAT move is not what should change (warden actually shouldnt change, but other should be buffed to his level ... i'm not maining warden, just saying)
valkyrie is supposed to have the same possibility with her shield-charge, but for her it just doesnt work (bugged, or not implemented but the moveset discription not updated)
she can only cancel it into a light-jump-attack but not into a GB
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No, it's not a true vortex. You can roll away and it beats all options the Warden can do.Originally Posted by SethEnraged Go to original post
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Rolling away isn't a solution as it drains a huge chunk of stamina and means the Warden is free to keep doing without fear of punishment until his opponent is out of stamina. Assassins can light attack when the charge animation starts but it still takes extremely good reflexes (basically they have to be perfect to avoid it whereas for the Warden it's very easy for the Warden to pull off), or dodge attack to avoid it but even then at certain ranges the charge will track the dodge and connect anyway, plus if the assassin dodge attacks then the Warden can still cancel the charge altogether and block the attack (I'm not about the Berserker since his dodge attack is so fast). Other than that none of the other classes have a fast enough light attack to get one in before he charges, and if they try the Warden will see the attack animation as a queue not to cancel. It might not be a true vortex given the 50/50 aspect but it has no proper counter and is completely safe for the Warden to spam against virtually every class.
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