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Yesterday in a Dominion match, my friends and I were trying to hold C on High Fort when I hear one of my friends just sigh and start grumbling about a Valkyrie on the enemy team. He says she has an unblockable combo that he couldn't recover from and just wiped the floor with him and his Warden. I didn't believe him, wanting to have faith in Ubisoft to not allow something THAT bad. But then it happened to me, less than twenty seconds later. And not just one Valkyrie, but two! They BOTH knew this infinite, unblockable attack that just let them win any confrontation. It was so absurdly easy to perform that I couldn't believe it got past the devs.
She did her shield charge, which knocked us down, then followed it up with an instant power attack that he wouldn't block (because, you know, on the ground), which I'm fine with. But then... As my character is getting up, she does it AGAIN, while I'm locked in the animation to stand up. She knocks me down again, does another strong attack. And she repeats this combo every. Single. Time. We won against her and the other Valkyrie purely by ganking the hell out of them, beat their team by being the kinds of players we hate. But the fact stands that such an insane, stupid thing exists is baffling. The other cheesy tactics have a limit, either on stamina or distance or a window to defend it. But not this one. Please, Ubisoft, for the love of God, fix this. She's going to be buffed soon and the ability to do MORE damage while not fixing the shield charge knockdown spam will just break the character, not fix her. I love your game, I'm addicted to it and the rage and joy I feel while playing a good match. So please, don't let this happen. Not just with Valkyrie, but all "infinite" combo attacks. Thank you.
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The infamous Warden vortex is largely considered to be 50/50, even by professional players, or at least as professional as one can be in a game less than a week into release. I've never had a problem escaping literally any other vortex from any class. But you're getting tunnel-vision on the parts that make you upset. The last part of the post says to get rid of the infinite combos from any class, not just Valkyrie. If the meta of the game changes to "Just do this combo and if you land it once, you win" then the game suffers. Other fighting games give victims of long combo strings some i-frames to recover and get a chance to defend. But to flat out deny that such a flaw exists at all, and to relegate the entire issue to "git gud" is asinine. So, if someone has some secret knowledge about how to counter the vortex attacks that doesn't boil down to "dodge and hope you're not out of stamina or cornered" then please enlighten the rest of us.
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Lol I read about half of this and stopped.Originally Posted by BenjaminTheMad Go to original post
Just to make sure there's 12 heroes in the game. And the worst hero in the entire game currently is Valk and you're crying about her...
I knew nerfing her this much was enough. DEVS STOP THE BUFFS TO VALK WE NEED MORE NERFS! Let my baby become worse! I'll still mop the floor with bad players.
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Who's crying specifically and only about Valkyrie in this thread?
For those who say to dodge it, that's the problem. The shield bash grounds you, and you can't dodge the bash while you're standing from prone. This leads to the infinite chain. Unblockable shield charge against a foe who can neither block nor dodge and is followed up by a heavy attack. If you get hit once by the first shield charge, you may as well just set the controller down. You're done, you can't escape it. That's not a problem with the player, that's a problem with the vortex capability. I'll practice against it after work, but I'm not convinced that once that particular string starts, that it's avoidable. But still, I'm nothing if not persistent. I'll try, so that I can lynch you savage rednecks for the glory of the tincans.
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You CAN dodge the shield bash. You CAN dodge the following sweep. There's nothing that's undodgable from the Valk. Yea it requires good timing. But not impossible by any means.Originally Posted by BenjaminTheMad Go to original post
You think it's impossible. Go to training against a level 3 bot. Cancel your Heavy's with Guardbreak it'll do a shield bash. You will NEVER hit with it.
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It's gonna be a little bit before these people understand that you need to l2p, instead of asking for those heroes to be perm nerfed and weak, so you can win without learning how to actually play.Originally Posted by ryaneko Go to original post
Yes, obviously if shes spamming it, op should find a way to counter the spam, and yes, theres a counter to almost all of her moves, and if not, you can roll, parry, side step, run away and reposition, if she gets real bad, lead her to an edge and try to shove her off, if you lose, quit raging and try again. I can battle valkyries, they're fun battles, and fast and exciting imo, but thats cause I actually know how to play... not trying to be rude.
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