The valk has a vortex like the warden | Forums

[MoneyBags270]

I'm not sure if you guys already know this if so just ignore it but the valks shoulder charge leads to a vortex in which the opponent has to guess between sweep or gb or risk eating another heavy. After the update speed buff she will become warden 2.0

[optophobe]

The Valkyrie does not have a 50/50 vortex like the Warden. You can read the Valk and counter her vortex with 100% accuracy rather than the Warden's coin toss.

[MoneyBags270]

I should have been more clear. If the valk knocks you down her shoulder charge can still hit you while you get up (not sure if this is intended) she then can follow up with a grab or sweep. If you attempt to dodge the sweep you risk getting gb if you try to counter gb you get swept. If you try to light attack you get parried. The only real option is to roll away and lose stamina.

[optophobe]

I should have been more clear. If the valk knocks you down her shoulder charge can still hit you while you get up (not sure if this is intended) she then can follow up with a grab or sweep. If you attempt to dodge the sweep you risk getting gb if you try to counter gb you get swept. If you try to light attack you get parried. The only real option is to roll away and lose stamina.

You're just wrong, as I said in the first reply.

[Altair_Snake]

Is it possible to roll away from the Warden's Vortex?

[optophobe]

Is it possible to roll away from the Warden's Vortex?

Yes.

[rocketdrive]

it is. just most think they can parry a heavy while they are stunned.