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    Nobushi Bleed Mechanics?

    I can't seem to find anything talking about it.,

    I found this spreadsheet someone from reddit made: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0

    States bleed does 15//20/25 damage (depending on attack), and way of the shark is a 20% increase in damage (but doesn't state if that is reflected in the numbers for attacks, or if it effects bleed damage).



    Does it stack? How does it stack (time wise/damage wise) etc...? Does anyone know?
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    Bleed effects are just rediclous

    The Nbushis bleed effects are just outright rediclous dude they done do damage as stated above. regaurdless of the attack the initial attack takes a bar and half of health followed buy another 25 percent bringing the player to half health. for a dot aka damage over time that's ludicrious. the bleed effect does all the work for the player. that balanced? no far from it. if u compare a nobushis dot. to say any of the classes from world of Warcraft that can do damage over time. youl find the dots in wow to be far weaker. there simply put an advantage not a means of an easy win. and I got to be honest I don't know who the idiot that made bleed effects the way they currently are was thinking
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    Originally Posted by Azrakel2 Go to original post
    The Nbushis bleed effects are just outright rediclous dude they done do damage as stated above. regaurdless of the attack the initial attack takes a bar and half of health followed buy another 25 percent bringing the player to half health. for a dot aka damage over time that's ludicrious. the bleed effect does all the work for the player. that balanced? no far from it. if u compare a nobushis dot. to say any of the classes from world of Warcraft that can do damage over time. youl find the dots in wow to be far weaker. there simply put an advantage not a means of an easy win. and I got to be honest I don't know who the idiot that made bleed effects the way they currently are was thinking
    I don't know if this is a troll or if English just isn't your first language and you aren't communicating properly. Because it reads as if you just said bleed does a bar and a half or damage and counting the initial hit will get a player down to 50% life...

    Bleeds don't stack, they just reapply.
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    Originally Posted by Zakmuffin Go to original post
    I don't know if this is a troll or if English just isn't your first language and you aren't communicating properly. Because it reads as if you just said bleed does a bar and a half or damage and counting the initial hit will get a player down to 50% life...

    Bleeds don't stack, they just reapply.
    regardless of his English, the nobushi bleed effect is ridiculous, all people do is hit you with the bleed effect then run and play defensive and then repeat, unless you have debuff resistance quite high and playing dominion then there is no counter for it when you get hit.
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    Why you let them hit you when you have seen their strategy I wonder....
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    Originally Posted by DrinkinMehStella Go to original post
    regardless of his English, the nobushi bleed effect is ridiculous, all people do is hit you with the bleed effect then run and play defensive and then repeat, unless you have debuff resistance quite high and playing dominion then there is no counter for it when you get hit.
    Is this serious? Take away the bleed effect and give me the damage that everyone else has, bleed does around 20-25 dmg, over several seconds. Plenty of times I've been rushed by dying opponents who catch me backing away. Give me instant damage instead of bleed and raise my base damage. For reference the orochi top combo does 32 dmg combined with their side dashing heavy it does 57 combo damage. Warden side combo does 24 dmg. All of it instant and easier to get off than any of the nobushi bleeds. If we see nobushi nerfs you'll just be destroyed by them playing other easier and stronger classes.

    Gitgud
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    Originally Posted by Zakmuffin Go to original post
    Is this serious? Take away the bleed effect and give me the damage that everyone else has, bleed does around 20-25 dmg, over several seconds. Plenty of times I've been rushed by dying opponents who catch me backing away. Give me instant damage instead of bleed and raise my base damage. For reference the orochi top combo does 32 dmg combined with their side dashing heavy it does 57 combo damage. Warden side combo does 24 dmg. All of it instant and easier to get off than any of the nobushi bleeds. If we see nobushi nerfs you'll just be destroyed by them playing other easier and stronger classes.

    Gitgud
    Nobushi = no skill, stand back and spam the same combos over and over and over

    gitgud? my stats say otherwise. You need to calm down sunshine, its an opinion I THINK nobushi bleed affect is OP as i play with Kensai. just an opinion
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    Originally Posted by DrinkinMehStella Go to original post
    Nobushi = no skill, stand back and spam the same combos over and over and over

    gitgud? my stats say otherwise. You need to calm down sunshine, its an opinion I THINK nobushi bleed affect is OP as i play with Kensai. just an opinion
    Actually,his git gud is more than justified.Nobushi has one of the most complex movesets,hidden stance mixups,side lights and heavyes,long recovery time and one of the slowest guard speed.
    Sayng that yours is an opinion do not justify the mistakes in your judgement.Not to mention that every hero with a dash counters her....
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    My gods, I find myself agreeing with you xD

    There is enough you can do against a nobushi. Just don't let her decide the terms of the engagement because she will bleed you dry in a long and painful process
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    Originally Posted by DrinkinMehStella Go to original post
    Nobushi = no skill, stand back and spam the same combos over and over and over

    gitgud? my stats say otherwise. You need to calm down sunshine, its an opinion I THINK nobushi bleed affect is OP as i play with Kensai. just an opinion
    This is actually the problem with so many things in the world. You *think* the nobushi bleed is OP, even after nobushi players explain to you why it isn't. You don't play the hero, you just *think* about it and cry. Bleed is an 8 second dot that does 1 bar of damage and doesn't stack. You play a kensei that can 3 shot any other hero in the game. You don't even state any reason for your opinion, sigh.
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