Im still wondering why orochi gets a free heavy after a GB. | Forums

[PaUZZze]

I'm just looking for an explanation. I can block any other warriors heavy after they break my guard, but never orochi. I've lost many battles against orochi because of it, otherwise clearly would've had the win. It bothers me when people spam it . I'm hoping to test it tonight with my brother to see if any other warrior can do it but I don't remember having an issue blocking after guard broken against any other warrior. Can anyone chime in?

[YappysDaBeast]

Pretty sure Nobushi can also.

[PackingMoney]

I'm just looking for an explanation. I can block any other warriors heavy after they break my guard, but never orochi. I've lost many battles against orochi because of it, otherwise clearly would've had the win. It bothers me when people spam it . I'm hoping to test it tonight with my brother to see if any other warrior can do it but I don't remember having an issue blocking after guard broken against any other warrior. Can anyone chime in?

Everyone can apparently.

[PssrDavis]

Everyone can apparently.

but no one should be able to get free anything imo. Blasphemous.

[YappysDaBeast]

And Valk, just tested.

[BadgerBadger25]

This guy always cries about Orochi, makes useless threads like this.

[Fuzzybutts]

The free heavy isn't the issue, its the fact that its a free heavy that does more damage than unblockable attacks that need special timing/coordination to pull off on an opponent. Look at abilities like raiders L+R combo, it uses more than 4x the stamina as the Orochi GB+Heavy combo but does about 3/4 the damage. Other examples are the chained unblockables on lawbringer wherein they requite parries and excellent timing and set up and can be backstepped out of but do only about 2/3rds and cost almost the entire stamina bar on lawbringer.

Theres plenty of other combos that do less damage and have far more input, setup, and resources required but don't do comparable damage to the Orochi guard break + overhead.

[getatme94]

everyone gets a free side heavy, which in my opinion is fine, they don't do as much damage as a top heavy to my understanding, so they are used to secure executions that is fair play in my eyes. because it would be a block fest otherwise and heavies would be useless in my eyes. my problem is, orochi gets a free TOP heavy, someone can correct me if i am wrong but top heavy does full heavy damage right?

[The_B0G_]

There will be an Orochi nerf, count on that. Even if no one said anything about it on the forums, the devs can see its the most picked hero, and how well people who do with it that aren't very good with any other classes. I'm guessing it'll be a stamina nerf, or maybe a very slight speed nerf.

[Fuzzybutts]

There will be an Orochi nerf, count on that. Even if no one said anything about it on the forums, the devs can see its the most picked hero, and how well people who do with it that aren't very good with any other classes. I'm guessing it'll be a stamina nerf, or maybe a very slight speed nerf.

What needs to happen is an update to when block frames come into account, this will balance the majority of assassin classes. Mostly due to attack animations being too fast for p2p to keep up with, then his attack speed could remain the same. All Orochi needs changes is the stamina and the gb+overhead heavy damage then they would be rather balanced.