Nobushi & Warden Balancing Suggestion | Forums

[LeonaPT]

Warden seems to be the character most people say are overpowered and I agree.

Nobushi
Honestly, her bleed damage does way too much damage. That's all there is to it. Especially her free attack she gets after connecting an unblockable kick, simply too much bleed damage.

The bleed damage from nobushi shouldn't be able to kill an opponent either, whenever a nobushi player applies enough bleed to an enemy to kill them they run away for the next 5 seconds while the opponent can't do anything but wait for their death.

Warden
Nobody has a problem with warden apart from his vortex, it's actually ridiculous how strong this is mid-fight. It's insanely spammable and takes no effort or skill from the warden to set up yet creates a total 50 / 50 situation where the opponent takes damage nearly as much as a heavy, straight into another 50 / 50 situation. And I haven't even mentioned that wardens can also cancel the shoulder bash into a parry or feint as well, the wardens able to enter that vortex at any time and in any situation making it even more unpredictable and strong.

People try and claim it's not that strong, that you can do this and do that to counter it. Those people are probably wardens which spam it all day long trying to make it sound balanced. I'd love to know how consistent their strategy to countering it is mid-fight when their the ones playing against a decent warden.

There are so many things to look out for when fighting a warden, the fast top light and zone attack along with their scary feints, the vortex makes them too powerful.
Just remove their ability to cancel shoulder bash into guard break and warden goes from being overpowered, to balanced yet still very strong.

[Captain-Jin]

As a Warden main, I wouldn't say he's overpowered, but at the same time I've never known you can feint his shoulder bash (I assume that's what you mean by vortex). Happily give up what I didn't know I had if you think it'd help XD

[LeonaPT]

As a Warden main, I wouldn't say he's overpowered, but at the same time I've never known you can feint his shoulder bash (I assume that's what you mean by vortex). Happily give up what I didn't know I had if you think it'd help XD

I've been in plenty of fights with wardens who haven't used the vortex (vortex is when you're able to get your opponent into a situation where they have to make an unfavourable guess and if they guess wrong, they get punished and have to make another unfavourable guess etc etc.) and the fights have been pretty intense and close. It's when you come across a warden that knows how to abuse their 50/50 warden becomes overpowered.