[Guide] A noob's guide to lawbringer so you can stop saying he is bad | Forums

[Shinimas]

It's funny how controversal the LB is. There are people who say that he's utterly broken and crap, and there are others who swear they found a way to make it OP. Nothing inbetween. Wtf

Some people are still playing against those who dash after every shove and get GB'd. Some are playing against PKs and Orochis that abuse zone attacks.

[Aarpian]

It's funny how controversal the LB is. There are people who say that he's utterly broken and crap, and there are others who swear they found a way to make it OP. Nothing inbetween. Wtf

Because 99% of the people saying "he's good!" will change their mind to "He's garbage" the moment they play against someone who can actually tech guard breaks.

[ThePollie]

The Lawbringer is bad because he offers nothing special. If you're good with the Lawbringer, you'd be even better with a Warden or a Nobushi.

Good Lawbringers are just good at the game's combat entirely, it's not the character.

[Munchy_Ham]

I main Lawbringer but he reminds me of the stereotypical fat donut cop. He's big, slow, tires easily, and does his job worse than his peers. His few safe combos do laughable damage and your bread and butter shove into GB combo is easily stopped by anyone who does well with GB since its so telegraphed. Every basic combo has a Heavy that is so slow its a parry magnet. Land a GB and follow up with a top heavy stun? Nope, too slow. To top it all off his stance change is some of the slowest in the game which is funny since he is the parry king. I enjoy playing him but I think I like the Lawbringer more than the hero itself. I'll have to wait and see tho.

[Jisig_SxxShop]

Don't you think it is a little weird to main LB and be posting that he needs a buff and that you can't find anything "useful" that he currently has? You obviously just need more practice. Yes Lawbringer is not the greatest, maybe he is not even good. He is definitely average and better than some heroes though *cough*Valkyrie*cough*

*cough*cough* VALKYRIE IS ***IN EZ AND OP

[Jisig_SxxShop]

Ok so ,here's my opinion on this im now half way trhough prestige 5 with LB , and yes he is weak , you could call him a noob killer for the reason that he is extremly strong against noob players , but against someone who has just a minimum knowledge about the game , you're gonna have a hard time , or should i say , its a loss , like , if you play against someone the same level of skills of yours or less , not a complete **** , you'll get destroyed because , your parry attacks can be parried unless it a light wich do no dmg, and it takes a good reaction time to parry attacks from fast characters and add the peer to peer server on this , its quite hard to parry assasins, and its not rewarding at all , wich make no sense since the character is based on parrying attacks , plus your shove can be counter extremly easily , and not only this but it can turn against you , and i'm just starting , if you use your inpale and get parried you lose pretty much all your stamina so this attack is litterally useless since its extremely ez to parry, they could remove it it'd change nothing since its useless. Now to continue , LB attacks dmg/speed is not fair , it takes the whole them brainpower to land an attacks since they are so damn slow and easy to stop , and yet they do no dmg. LB is too slow to dodge most of the stuff and the guard is one of the slowest to switch wich mean , sometimes, alot of the times you just dont have the time to switch guard and get the hit , compare this to the peacekeeper who's attacks do more dmg then lb , yet is faster , can block some stuff and dodge like sonice the hedgehog, its just pure unfair , so to resume this : LB is good against noob BUT LB is pure garbage against player with a minimum of knowledge thx and i hope ubisoft will see this and buff him a little

[Trustful_Whale]

Lawbringer gets the short end of the stick in just about every aspect of the game's combat apart from Raider:

- His high-damage parry follow-ups are his best tools, yet are only possible when parrying light attacks
- Shove feels good to use, but leads to nothing
- Despite having hyper armor, Shove gets beaten clean by other non-lethal unblockables such as Headbutt, Shoulder Tackle, Shield Bash, etc
- Long Arm is only usable in group fights
- Long Arm only gets a light attack follow-up
- Shove and Long Arm drain opponent's stamina, but fatigued opponents have nothing to fear from him anyways
- Gets completely shredded against Peacekeeper and Valkyrie assaults thanks to the guard system
- The few combos he has are too situational
- Has the worst match ups in the game

And the biggest slap to the face: Shove's on-guard mechanic makes the Lawbringer exclusively incapable of punishing any unsafe move in the game on block. We're talking **** that literally every other character gets, being a free guard break upon blocking certain attacks, the Lawbringer cannot do because he has to wait for his Shove window to end first.
Blocked the Warden's Zone Attack? Too bad, you don't get anything for it because you're the Lawbringer.


You can tell everyone that they're bad at the game all you like, but the fact of the matter is that unless you're a jedi at parrying or your opponent is asleep the Lawbringer cannot deal damage to anyone competent. If your opponent is good at teching guard breaks (which is everyone) then Lawbringer has nothing.

[Felis_Menari]

I haven't dealt with it often, so I can't remember if Shove is beaten by other bash attacks. If it is...well, that's a problem. Shugoki's hyper armor allows him to ignore *all* attacks aside from GBs. Not even my LB's Long Arm works on him with his hyper armor active.

[TheCadian_]

It all comes down to practice with the hero and learning both the mechanics of your chosen main as well as those of you opposition and the trends players fall into using them.

My win rates suffered horrifically when I started to learn this character (especially in duel matches) however the more I work on my feint game and mixing up my attack patterns the more competitive and close my fights become. More often than not I lose the first two rounds of a Duel only to come back and win the final three consecutively.

Parries were the first thing I learnt to perform to make this character viable against low to mid tier opposition, feints followed, and guard break counters were the most recent... that said it is rare to have another player guard break me now (with the exceptions of a few classes who feint into a guard break and the Berserker who I can never seem to get down).

With those skills more or less mastered I never fear pushing the Lawbringer into exhausted states knowing there is very little that can punish me.

Last session I got to play I brought my average win rate in 4v4 game modes up to around 85% while duels still hover around 65% due to my initial difficulties with the class. I don't think the Lawbringer is as broken as everyone says it is, but it certainly can be difficult to use. I prefer the challenge.

[Steak0815]

It's funny how controversal the LB is. There are people who say that he's utterly broken and crap, and there are others who swear they found a way to make it OP. Nothing inbetween. Wtf

Because the strongest mechanic in the game are parries and Lawbringer gets the most value out of parries.
Light attack parried -> 2 bars gone + blind that may result in another gb, so potentially 3 bars gone
Heavy attack parried -> 1 bar gone
Heavy attack parried that's out of range for a gb -> 1/2 bar gone

So if you are a god at parrying light attacks from all classes then yeah Lawbringer has a lot of power.
He is trash because he is depending on a risky mechanic.
Try parrying attacks from a pk that throws in some feints and you will soon notice how you are out of tools