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  1. #21
    Orochi is not even top 3 heroes. I think you guys are just new players(to not say bad). Play until you find a good Shugoki or warden .. or warlord , or peacekeeper . Orochi is mid tier in my opinion. Its played a lot at low ranks becouse he is cool. He is viable at hight play tho but its not the best as I already wrote, Orochi seems even ready for a slight buff if you really wanna bring him in top 5 or something.
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  2. #22

    Yes

    Originally Posted by Smash137CH Go to original post
    First of all u guys never played orochi so maybe try it out when hes so op. I play main orochi and when a heavy guy gets u at a tiny corner u cant dodge any thing so ur pretty much dead. to make a dodge attack u need to perfect time it like a parri and thats not so easy against fast enemeys but easy against slow fighters but t o hella crazy damage. the game is not only based on how to play ur own hero. to master it u need to know how to fight against surtent enemeys.
    Agreed, he is very fast but as smash said, play with orochi so you understand where he loses, and yes he does lose, there is also the simple fact that some characters are slightly better against other heroes, like heroes of the storm or mortal kombat. I do find his run speed to be too high as he can flee virtually any battle if hes losing which i then can agree is quite infuriating.
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  3. #23
    Tell me pls which classes does counter him cause he automatically counters all heavy, kensei, raider and even warden can compete only by abusing light->gb spam till they fix gb interrupts.
    Thats only half of the classes.

    Either way, i heard that dodges are pointless, so why be against removing iframes from them?? If that are you saying is true it wont affect "high lvl" plays where he apparently is average.
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  4. #24
    They are a real problem. I would rather fight a nobushi or a peacekeeper any day than fight an orochi.
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  5. #25
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    i say this everywhere but here goes again

    pretty much all the assassin problems would be fixed if they changed the way Dodge works, dodge is far to effect and punishing when done by an assassin.

    dodging into an attack should result in a hit, unless timed right for the deflect. the way it works right now is BS, why block when you can just press a button and avoid any attack no matter what it is and give yourself a free attack well your at it.

    of course it will be used endlessly. the only counter is GB, which becomes equally boring to just attack - gb - attack - gb.

    it's why the assassins are so over played, you can basically ignore the fundamentals of the game by playing an assassins, as you don't need to learn to block and counter.
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  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Davoodoo92 Go to original post
    Tell me pls which classes does counter him cause he automatically counters all heavy
    what are you even talking about? orochi can do NOTHING against warlord. warlord goes into his bottom defend stance (don't know the name), all orochi can do against that is guardbreak, which the warlord will counter guardbreak. no way orochi deals damage to a warlord. then there is warlord head but. you must be trolling.
    Originally Posted by Vordred Go to original post
    i say this everywhere but here goes again

    pretty much all the assassin problems would be fixed if they changed the way Dodge works, dodge is far to effect and punishing when done by an assassin.

    dodging into an attack should result in a hit, unless timed right for the deflect. the way it works right now is BS, why block when you can just press a button and avoid any attack no matter what it is and give yourself a free attack well your at it.

    of course it will be used endlessly. the only counter is GB, which becomes equally boring to just attack - gb - attack - gb.

    it's why the assassins are so over played, you can basically ignore the fundamentals of the game by playing an assassins, as you don't need to learn to block and counter.
    faint into guardbreak owns dodge. what are you on about.
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  7. #27

    Nah

    Not an issue for me on raider, only better players beat me. That will be true with any hero.
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  8. #28
    Sounds like you're salty. L2p friend, everything will be better after that. Orochi is really predictable. Stop whining and pex your skill.

    You didn't gave any valuable reason for a nerf.
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  9. #29
    i use a kensei and destroy orochi just keep moving get one block than they dont no wat to do there whole tactic is to poke you and run i always use a bow for those runners after i destroy them and they try to flee but im constantly moving and waiting for the right moment for a heavy attack the orochi and peace keepers easy to destory if you just focus dodge and attack at right time

    Goodluck brothers of the battlefield
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