Orochi Needs a Nerf BADLY | Forums

[joshcsaaron]

I'm tired of going into matches with one or two orochis at least and getting completely destroyed because orochi has such a overpowering attack dps that it out classes the first bleed build that arrived in the early test seasons. Everyone on my team gets hit twice or three times and boom they're dead already, obviously this wasn't a intentional feature because if it was then we all know why the main character in the story is one. Base skill orochi previous before reputation 1 has fine damage output, dealing average damage like orochi should but when you get to the point where you can stack buffs and raise attack power you can go in and one man army 5 people all at the same time and without a sweat know you will win for sure because you're basically thor on the battlefield. Please nerf orochi's damage stack, its way too much.

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[joshcsaaron]

Agreed. Everyone saying that it doesn't, plays orochi and nothing else. It's pretty evident why orochi and peacekeeper are the two most played classes in the game. There are clear advantages to those classes. If it were because people liked the assassin class you'd see more berserkers but you barely see any. If it were because of the bleed people would complain about nobushi. They only class people complain about is orochi and peacekeeper. Orochi being the most complained about class. There is clearly a problem

This has nothing to do with getting good. Enless all these people have fiber optic connections, some way to only connect to players who also have super computers and fiber optic connections (because this game uses peer to peer connection), play on a supercomputer and have Neo like reflexes I don't see how you purposely defend against the orochi light combo string. It's just too fast. If you do manage to defend against it, its either luck or the person you're playing is terrible and telegraphs everything


P.S - Valkyrie needs a buff

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[joshcsaaron]

This is the result of people being bad at the actual game. they dont know how to think when playing the game.

You are completely right, EVERY champion in this game is just a "Learn how to defeat". Nothing more.. they are not OP or anything.

People are complaining just because they cant play the game.

You're too ignorant to post here please leave the thread.

[TheRevanchist27]

I have officially started the Church of Joshcsaaron. We shall worship the one true god of the forum battlefield.

[EothK]

they do not need a nerf, you simply need to learn to counter them. just because you cant smash your way to victory does not mean they are op. I play as one as well as lawbringer and nobushi. honestly i have the MOST trouble on my oro due to her low hp and defence.

Except a lot of fast small hits amount in high damage. And since the hit interupts the attacks of others they can dish out with out getting hit themselves.
And even then, 1 vs 1 it is doable as you say. But with 3 or 4 Orochis running around spamming light attacks, dashes etc. it becomes very annoying.
And nothing to do against. That's why most find them OP / annoying. There is just too many of them around. And there are too many around cause he is easy to play and hard to stop.
Not unstoppable but quite difficult compared to other classes.

When 1 class stands out as much as Orochi does something is up. It might not be completely OP but it certainly comes closest from all classes.
In a game like this one would hope each class is 8% of the chosen classes. Not 30 - 50%.

[Rekolfser]

What really needs to be done is prevent guardbreak spammers, I can sit there and practice with my friend all day on breaking grabs and literally its all the light classes need to do is guardbreak, slash, sidestep, jump away jump back guardbreak and repeat. I main as a Warlord and honestly only thing that can kill me is Orochi's, Kensei's, Peacekeepers, Berserker, and Nobushi because these are the only combos they do. I don't mind people who stand their ground like deflecting and actually chaining combos and counter attacking but hit and running is pathetic and annoying sadly the Alpha and Beta these characters weren't so bad and really wish people would stop bulling the cheap card and get good its not hard its just called learning to fight how your suppossed to. Lawbringers grab constantly but with my guy i headbutt get back charge and combo and only time i move back is stanima broke after. I waited for this game for 2 yeah have a rep 2 lvl 18 warlord I even fought againt a skilled Orochis, Lawbringer, Warden, and Nobushi all close fights and kicked my friends asses but I'm always able to stand my ground just please wish something that will happen to balance this I love the game and can fight really well but when those tactics are all my enemy has to do to win it gets old really quickand wish this game would actually live up to its name and people actually end up fighting with HONOR. Please

[mr3LiON]

Orochi needs nerf not because she is too powerful. No. She is easy to kill, if you know how to kill her. Orochi needs nerf because she is too easy too play and too easy to win with simple tricks. Because of this too many players play with Orochi. All assassins need nerf by the same reason.

[p0rter.]

Not sure why people scream for nerfs, I find it pretty balanced so far. I loved that there are so many Orochis running around. They are fast to kill, way to many button mashers out there. A player with skill will make any class look OP.
I am not sure if in a button masher vs button masher type of situation the Orochi is OP, though. But these folks will leave the game after the next blockbuster launches anyway, so imo no need to act.

What is really upsetting about the game, is the constant disconnects. I can not finish 3 out of 5 games except duels.

[Butthound]

As someone who gravitates towards the knights (not cheesekeeper) and kensei, I find orochi to be one of the most balanced characters in the game.

Especially having seen the state of the orochi in the alpha, where he basically was a raider in terms of damage, but with a lot more speed.

[Kaolic]

If you get caught by Orochi quick spam it is because you do not feint and commit to attacks that you shouldn't commit to.

Storm Rush is so telegraphed it is easy to parry. It works like wonders on players who wildly attack the air with heavy strikes though.
I have the most trouble against Orochi on my Conqueror due to the lack of feint. I have to commit to my attacks, which means they can do their dodge strikes without me being able to punish properly.
Going Heavy to trigger their dash -> Guard Stance to cancel + block -> Punish their move is draining WAY to much stamina to use consistently.
Otherwise when they try their side-dash-dance, just block/parry them.